The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

[A2SG]

Who said anything about it being "illegal"?

You asked about whether or not people have the Constitutional right to "create and sell merchandise that wishes for and encourages the death of another person" or if they should be held responsible for it. What did you mean by being held responsible, if not legally?

-- A2SG, would you prefer we bring back shunning?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Charlie Kirk’s Group Held Its First Post-Assassination Campus Event. It Was Extreme—and Revealing.​

Revenge against “the left” is on the near-term agenda, but even the group’s leaders are concerned about what comes after that.​

The first event, in Minneapolis, for example, started with a very particular character in Michael Knowles, a conservative radio and podcast host associated with the Daily Wire.

“Christian forgiveness does not demand we allow the cruel to ravage the whole earth; it demands we love our enemies,” he said. “In politics, love usually means punishing the guilty, both for the protection of the innocent as well as for the good of the criminals.”

Knowles wants the right to act decisively and drastically, to use the groundswell of public support to crack down hard on opponents. In particular, Knowles was concerned with the idea of “free speech”—something that Kirk has been celebrated as a champion of, but something that has also divided the right in the aftermath of the killing, as the administration has moved to label those who criticized Kirk as supporting left-wing violence. Knowles, it seems, sides with the administration:

In the wake of Charlie’s assassination, many are inclined to redouble our devotion to the marketplace of ideas. This instinct, I think, misses a crucial step. We had a marketplace of ideas. The left shot it up. If we wish to restore the healthy exchange of ideas, we need to refortify the marketplace. Marketplaces of all kinds require rules, confidence, and common medium of exchange. They require, in other words, order.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Stephen Miller Claims Simply Calling Trump Authoritarian ‘Incites Violence and Terrorism’​

“Trying to criminalize the act of calling a government ‘authoritarian,’” one journalist said, “is exactly what an authoritarian government would do.”​

Miller’s comments came in response to a clip of California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D), who appeared Tuesday on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert” on CBS.

“I mean, if some guy jumped out of an unmarked car in a van and tried to grab me, by definition, you’re going to push back,” Newsom continued. “These are not just authoritarian tendencies; these are authoritarian actions by an authoritarian government.”

“This should put chills up spines, “ Newsom said. “[Miller] called the Democratic Party an ‘extremist organization,’ basically a terrorist organization, saying he’s going after his enemies.”

Newsom also referred to a post made by Trump on Truth Social telling Attorney General Pam Bondi to target certain political enemies for prosecution.

Miller responded to the clip of Newsom, saying: “This language incites violence and terrorism.”

 

[essentialsaltes]

Case of grad students targeted for pro-Palestinian language.

This case -– perhaps the most important ever to fall within
the jurisdiction of this district court –- squarely presents the
issue whether non-citizens lawfully present here in United
States actually have the same free speech rights as the rest of
us. The Court answers this Constitutional question
unequivocally “yes, they do.” “No law” means “no law.”

Judge finds Trump administration unconstitutionally targeted noncitizens over Gaza war protests​

U.S. District Judge William Young in Boston agreed with several university associations that the policy they described as ideological deportation violates the First Amendment.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Does one have a constitutional right to create and sell merchandise that wishes for and encourages the death of another person?

Yes.

If someone acts on the message of that merchandise, should the purveyors of the merchandise be held response for those actions?

No.

 

[essentialsaltes]

FBI fires longtime employee and agent trainee who displayed Pride flag, sources say​

In a previous non-agent role with the FBI, the employee, who received multiple awards for service during his career, had also been a field office diversity program coordinator and displayed a Pride flag at his workstation, sources said.

In notifying the individual of their dismissal, Patel did not specifically mention the Pride flag by name, but said the agent trainee was being summarily dismissed for past “poor judgment” and “an inappropriate display of political signage,” sources said.

Two FBI veterans told CNN displaying the flag at one’s desk historically would not violate any past FBI policy. However, since taking office, President Donald Trump has vowed to rid the federal government of what he calls “woke” ideology.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Trump says he 'took the freedom of speech away' on flag burning​

“We took the freedom of speech away, because that’s been through the courts, and the courts said you have freedom of speech but what has happened is when they burn the flag it agitates and irritates crowds,” Trump said during a roundtable discussion on antifa.

The U.S. Supreme Court established that flag burning is protected speech in a 1989 case involving Gregory Lee Johnson, who burned the flag while protesting then-President Ronald Reagan’s administration.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Wole Soyinka, Nigerian Nobel laureate and Trump critic, says US visa revoked​

Soyinka, 91, who recently compared US president to Idi Amin, says ‘I have no visa – I am banned’

“I want to assure the consulate … that I’m very content with the revocation of my visa,” Soyinka, who won the 1986 Nobel prize for literature, told a news conference.

Soyinka previously held permanent residency in the United States, though he destroyed his green card after Donald Trump’s first election in 2016.

Reading the letter [revoking his visa] aloud to journalists in Lagos, Nigeria’s economic centre, he jokingly called it a “rather curious love letter from an embassy”, while telling any organisations hoping to invite him to the United States “not to waste their time”.

“I have no visa. I am banned,” Soyinka said.

 

[Say it aint so]

Trump Chief Stephen Miller’s Wife Explicitly Threatens Cenk Uygur’s Citizenship in Shocking On-Air Meltdown​

Katie Miller, wife of senior Trump aide Stephen Miller, explicitly threatened Cenk Uygur’s citizenship Wednesday as the pair threw down in a shouting match on Piers Morgan Uncensored – warning the progressive pundit that he “better check” his application is clean.​

 

[Bradskii]

Trump Chief Stephen Miller’s Wife Explicitly Threatens Cenk Uygur’s Citizenship in Shocking On-Air Meltdown​

Katie Miller, wife of senior Trump aide Stephen Miller, explicitly threatened Cenk Uygur’s citizenship Wednesday as the pair threw down in a shouting match on Piers Morgan Uncensored – warning the progressive pundit that he “better check” his application is clean.​

Par for the course.

 

[rambot]

I've come to the conclusion that MOST people (maybe even the majority) don't really support free speech. They support speech as long as they agree with it and it conforms to their agendas and narratives.

I always seem to disagree with you but ti agree with you on this.

I think claiming you are for free speech when you are not is the most cowardly of positions and it just sheds some light on your true heart when you speak up foe thr apeech you want protected.


I just say I am not for free speech. At least that way I'm not kidding myself.

Iirc you are a free speech absolutist. I respect that consistency and I also think I'd you protect everything them you are not showing a favorite.

When free speech posers protect racist speech but then jump on others' free speech rights, all I can think is those folks agree with those racist in some way to...some unknown extent.

 

[Say it aint so]

Trump’s DOJ scrubs mention of Jan. 6 and Trump from Taylor Taranto sentencing memo​

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From the start of President Donald Trump’s second term, he and his administration have prioritized purging the history of Jan. 6, from his blanket pardons of Trump-backed rioters to firing agents and prosecutors who did their jobs in bringing cases against people who broke the law, including those who attacked law enforcement officers that day in 2021.​

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The latest example comes in the sentencing of Taylor Taranto, scheduled for Thursday. His Jan. 6 charges were dismissed due to the president’s Day 1 command, but he was convicted this year of separate crimes he committed in 2023.​

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Ahead of his sentencing, two prosecutors on his case filed a memorandum Tuesday that referred to Jan. 6 and Trump — after which they were placed on leave, the Justice Department withdrew their memo, and new prosecutors came in and filed a new one Wednesday without mentioning Jan. 6 or Trump. ​

The initial 14-page memo, signed by prosecutors Carlos Valdivia and Samuel White, recounted that “On January 6, 2021, thousands of people comprising a mob of rioters attacked the U.S. Capitol while a joint session of Congress met to certify the results of the 2020 presidential election.” It further noted that Taranto “was accused of participating in the riot in Washington, D.C., by entering the U.S. Capitol Building,” and that he later “returned to his home in the State of Washington, where he promoted conspiracy theories about the events of January 6, 2021.”​

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1. So they scrub the prosecutors report that accurately describe Jan 6th as a mob or rioters.
2. The report accurately describes the defendant being motivated by Trump and Trump doxing Barrack Obama's address.
3. They place on leave the two prosecutors for correctly doing the above.
4. Then without going through the court process they have the sentencing memo with those descriptions removed from record.
5. Now the Judge has raised the alarm and is requiring them to explain themselves.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Criticism of Trump is probably illegal.

 

[Say it aint so]

Criticism of Trump is probably illegal.

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I have to wonder whether he sits there at night watching a row of TVs of what late night hosts are saying about him.
Or doe he have a cache of administrators doing it for him and then briefing him.
His level of his narcissism is going to drive future DSM-5 publications.

 

[essentialsaltes]

His level of his narcissism is going to drive future DSM-5 publications.

Now there's something we can name after him!

 

[essentialsaltes]

Majority of Americans don't think Trump is committed to free speech. (Numbers for Democrats not much better, but the majority flips the other way)