Prominent Northern Ireland cleric calls for King Charles to abdicate after prayer with pope

[Michie]

King Charles III has acted contrary to the oath made at his coronation and should now “let someone else take his place, who is a true Protestant and who will take their vows seriously,” a prominent Free Presbyterian minister from Northern Ireland said after the king prayed with Pope Leo XIV on Thursday in the Sistine Chapel at the Vatican.

Rev. Kyle Paisley, the son of firebrand Democratic Unionist Party founder Ian Paisley, made the statements in a letter to Newspapers in Northern Ireland and subsequently in an interview on BBC Radio as well as other media outlets.

In the Sistine Chapel prayer service, King Charles, the supreme governor of the Church of England, accompanied by Queen Camilla, sat at Pope Leo’s left-hand side as the pope and Anglican Archbishop Stephen Cottrell led prayers.

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Northern Ireland cleric calls for King Charles to abdicate after papal prayer

Rev. Kyle Paisley slammed King Charles III for “betraying his oath” after praying with Pope Leo XIV in the Sistine Chapel at the Vatican on Thursday.

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[Michie]

Who knew Christians putting their differences aside for one day to pray together was such a problem?

 

[RamiC]

Who knew Christians putting their differences aside for one day to pray together was such a problem?

There will be no abdication over this.

The Oath is here, Presentation of the Holy Bible and Oath Taking – The Coronation Roll plus one about Scotland https://www.royal.uk/his-majesty-kings-oath-relating-security-church-scotland , and all it means is that the King is not Roman Catholic, he is a member of the Church of England, (I assumed that the Vatican would be aware of that fact), and will not do anything to change that or to change the not-Roman Catholic status of the Church of England. Nor will the King do anything to interfere with the Presbytarian position of the Church of Scotland. If there is a lawyer or consitutional expert on the UK about, I am neither, so go ahead and correct me.

I am pretty sure that even though this has not happened since the UK did sever links to Rome, the Oaths do allow for prayer, and visiting, just not trying to wholesale move the relevant forms of church to Roman Catholicism (or in any sneaky surreptitious way do the same).

I would appreciate anyone joining me in prayers that peace in Northern Ireland survives the headlines about this.

 

[John G.]

I would appreciate anyone joining me in prayers that peace in Northern Ireland survives the headlines about this.

Hardly "headlines". This is the first I hear of this bit of non-news.

 

[RileyG]

Apparently, he's part of a Free Presbyterian Church. The Church of Ireland is Anglican, the Church of England is Anglican, and the Church of Scotland is Presbyterian. King Charles is the supreme governor of the Church of England (Anglican), and honorary member of the Church of Scotland (Presbyterian), the same as his late mother.

He will not abdicate. Mark my words.

 

[John G.]

He will not abdicate. Mark my words.

Why should he? Would he abdicate if you or I called for his resignation?
The late Dr Ian Paisley had 5 children. I know only of Ian jnr who served N. Antrim as MP before being booted out by his constituents.
Who is Kyle and why did the Beeb even bother with him?

 

[RamiC]

Why should he? Would he abdicate if you or I called for his resignation?
The late Dr Ian Paisley had 5 children. I know only of Ian jnr who served N. Antrim as MP before being booted out by his constituents.
Who is Kyle and why did the Beeb even bother with him?

"As well as being the DUP founder, Ian Paisley also founded the Free Presbyterian Church and his son Kyle is a Free Presbyterian Church pastor." Ian Paisley’s son calls for King Charles to abdicate after he prays with Pope Leo in Sistine Chapel

The Beeb obviously thought the story should get some attention. I only saw it from this thread, and it appears the whole thing started from Kyle writing to the newspapers in Belfast, so he clearly just wanted to draw attention to his opinion. He thinks it means the King is not Protestant enough.

It is good to read that it is nothing in NI, glad to here it.

 

[Wolseley]

Sounds like Kyle wants to go back to the days when Stormont stomped all over Catholics and the Apprentice Boys threw pennies at the "Papists" locked up inside the Bogside slum.

 

[RileyG]

Sounds like Kyle wants to go back to the days when Stormont stomped all over Catholics and the Apprentice Boys threw pennies at the "Papists" locked up inside the Bogside slum.

Wonder how anti Catholic his theology and policies are?

 

[Bob Crowley]

I think he is very anti-Catholic.

From an AI summary -

Adherence to his father's legacy:
His views are a direct continuation of his father's, Ian Paisley, who was a prominent and militant anti-Catholic figure in Northern Irish politics. His father famously used strong rhetoric against the Pope and the Catholic Church.

He's the son of his father.

 

[jamiec]

Who knew Christians putting their differences aside for one day to pray together was such a problem?

It is a problem, and Mr Paisley is right to object.

 

[Wolseley]

I think he is very anti-Catholic.

From an AI summary -

Adherence to his father's legacy:
His views are a direct continuation of his father's, Ian Paisley, who was a prominent and militant anti-Catholic figure in Northern Irish politics. His father famously used strong rhetoric against the Pope and the Catholic Church.

He's the son of his father.

Well, if his views are "a direct continuation of his father's", then you can be very sure that they are bigoted, hate-filled rants against Catholicism with viewpoints so incredibly distorted that they would be laughable if they were being presented as ridiculous parody instead of earnest seriousness.

The elder Paisley used to publish screeds against the Catholics that made Julius Streicher's Nazi rants against the Jews look mild by comparison.

 

[RileyG]

Well, if his views are "a direct continuation of his father's", then you can be very sure that they are bigoted, hate-filled rants against Catholicism with viewpoints so incredibly distorted that they would be laughable if they were being presented as ridiculous parody instead of earnest seriousness.

The elder Paisley used to publish screeds against the Catholics that made Julius Streicher's Nazi rants against the Jews look mild by comparison.

Yikes! I wasn't aware of that at all! Lord have mercy!

 

[RileyG]

It is a problem, and Mr Paisley is right to object.

Why would he care if he's part of an Independent Presbyterian Church that King Charles isn't governor of? That what I don't completely understand.

Many anti-Catholics aren't fond of Lutherans, or Anglicans, or Episcopalians because they are often referred to as "Catholic Lite."

 

[RileyG]

I think he is very anti-Catholic.

From an AI summary -



He's the son of his father.

Sigh! That's too bad! May God enlighten his mind!

 

[Michie]

Yikes! I wasn't aware of that at all! Lord have mercy!

People publish that stuff all the time within Christianity. Catholicism is pretty much the number one topic of critique but it trickles down through all Christian sects from everything I have read.

 

[RileyG]

People publish that stuff all the time within Christianity. Catholicism is pretty much the number one topic of critique but it trickles down through all Christian sects from everything I have read.

Yup. Since we are the largest and oldest Church, we get picked on the most. That doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

 

[Michie]

Yup. Since we are the largest and oldest Church, we get picked on the most. That doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Well it does not me either. I find their pov interesting but mostly laughable since the majority of the accusations are a lot of malarkey.

 

[RileyG]

Well it does not me either. I find their pov interesting but mostly laughable since the majority of the accusations are a lot of malarkey.

Absolutely! Many just parrot what anti-Catholic clerics have been saying for centuries. It's not academic nor credible.

 

[Michie]

Absolutely! Many just parrot what anti-Catholic clerics have been saying for centuries. It's not academic nor credible.

It used to bother me. I think mostly because I’m a convert from Protestant Christianity and used to be horrified by a lot of it. Now? Not so much. It’s easy enough to find the truth of the matter but most do not. It’s their schtick and they got to stick to it I guess.