Trump third term

[RocksInMyHead]

I thought that was his best chance, not changing the Constitution, but somehow finding a way to evade counting as a person. A Supreme Court precedent declaring him a "man" and distinguishing the two somehow.

This has a ring of sovereign citizen silliness to it.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The 12th Amendment is probably a barrier to that. "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

The 12th Amendment is the one that set up the current electoral college with separate EC votes for Pres and VP. Prior to that the VP was the runner up in the "vote for two" tally of the votes of the electors for president. Since in the old system the VP was the presidential "runner-up" all valid votes would have to be cast for *president*. With this amendment, they kept it explicit that the VP must be eligible to be elected president. The "VP trick" is facially invalid. Donald Trump is ineligible to be VP.

 

[Hazelelponi]

1 the existing amendment would have to be repealed via another one. Which requires 2/3 of both houses to agree on an amendment, and then ratification via 3/4 of the states. Unless there's a red wave of epic proportions in both the federal and state levels (in a lot of states), that one's got a snowball's chance in hell.

2) A crazy hypothetical. (and maybe there's already another rule that squashes it). The verbiage says "nobody can be elected to the office of president more than twice". In 2028, he and JD Vance switch spots on the ticket so he's only "Running for VP", and then after all the swearing in is done, Vance voluntarily resigns, and the succession plan kicks in.

I'm positive Vance is running in 2028, and we will be having an election like every other. As Vice I'm sure he'll be the favored Republican candidate.

Trump trolls the media is all. I don't listen to the noise, he pokes and prods.

 

[Desk trauma]

This is silly, I mean it really is. Vance is running in 2028, we will be having an election like every other. As Vice I'm sure he'll be the favored Republican candidate.

Trump trolls the media is all. I don't listen to the noise, he pokes and prods.

As I asked in another thread where he threaten to ignore the constitutional term limits and it was brushed off as lols, what other constitutional limits would be funny for him to say he’s going to ignore?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Trump trolls the media is all. I don't listen to the noise, he pokes and prods.

The problem with this point of view is that there shouldn't be any "noise" coming from the President. When it comes to matters of law, we shouldn't have to stop and ask whether or not the President is just "trolling."

 

[RamiC]

This has a ring of sovereign citizen silliness to it.

I thought it is just the kind of thing some lawyers do when they are a bit bored.....

 

[Niels]

If we have to choose between Mamdani style communism, and a Trump style monarchy for this United States, and this becomes the new left/ right division going forward... We would need to decide on the lesser of two evils.

...Which would you prefer? Communism or Monarchy.

Neither. That scenario is why we have the Second Amendment.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

To be clear, I support the peaceful transition of power. My reply addresses what might happen if people are forced to choose between monarchy and communism in the United States. The US military takes an oath to defend the constitution, and the citizens have a right to bear arms.

 

[dogs4thewin]

AI Overview

A constitutional amendment can be changed, repealed, or altered by passing a new amendment through the same difficult process that originally created it. This requires a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate to propose the new amendment, followed by ratification by three-fourths of the states. The new amendment can then modify or remove any part of the Constitution, including previous amendments.

yes, but A only one amendment has been repealed and the repealed amendment was less than 25 years old and moreover, I do not think people would want that amendment repealed there is a REASON for that amendment.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

If we have to choose between Mamdani style communism, and a Trump style monarchy for this United States, and this becomes the new left/ right division going forward... We would need to decide on the lesser of two evils.

...Which would you prefer? Communism or Monarchy.

Communism.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

It'll be amazing if he lives out this term.

With Vance coming up behind him, I wish the president good health and a long life.

 

[durangodawood]

The Trump group is pretty adept at contriving various "emergencies" or "invasions" that maga will always assent to. So Id say theres a path to a third term. The main thing holding him back is probably his age.

 

[ralliann]

If we have to choose between Mamdani style communism, and a Trump style monarchy for this United States, and this becomes the new left/ right division going forward... We would need to decide on the lesser of two evils.

...Which would you prefer? Communism or Monarchy.

Be careful. I got a warning for similar statements about some dems.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Communism.

Kings.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Be careful. I got a warning for similar statements about some dems.

Isn’t Donald Trump constantly being referred to as a King on this forum? I can't imagine how calling Mamdani a communist is different than that.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Kings

Move to England.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Move to England.

I will, as soon as you head to Cuba.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

The 12th Amendment is probably a barrier to that. "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

That's where a scotus ruling may come into play I suppose if he were to try that trick.

It's never been tested in court, and it would depend on if (and how many justices) leaned towards the side of originalism vs. other interpretation styles.

An originalist may say, when the 12th amendment was crafted, the people who crafted it had no intent of stopping a person from being president for more than two terms. So I think someone like a Clearance Thomas would rule in his favor on that, but not sure about the others.


And then there's also the Speaker of the House in the succession plan, are there any limits on a former president ever running to be a House Rep?


Personally, I'd be more concerned about a Taft-like situation.

(where he became the chief justice of the US after being president)

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I will, as soon as you head to Cuba.

Why when I can stay here and work to change this country for the better?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Neither. That scenario is why we have the Second Amendment.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

To be clear, I support the peaceful transition of power. My reply addresses what might happen if people are forced to choose between monarchy and communism in the United States. The US military takes an oath to defend the constitution, and the citizens have a right to bear arms.

To be even clearer, I'm sure we can both understand the topic being discussed is pure rage-bait.

There will be no third term for Trump in the real world.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Why when I can stay here and work to change this country for the better?

Go ahead then.. Make my day!