Trump third term

[Bradskii]

Trump news at a glance: president floats a third term as Democrats vow ‘no way in hell’

President has not definitively ruled out seeking to extend time in office. Key US politics stories from Monday 27 October at a glance

www.theguardian.com

“I would love to do it: I have my best numbers ever,” the 79-year-old told reporters on Air Force One during a trip to Asia. Pressed on whether he was not ruling out a third term, he said, “Am I not ruling it out? I mean, you’ll have to tell me.”

Apart from him lying yet again about his numbers (they are in the toilet), how about we get a consensus on this?

 

[FenderTL5]

Steve Bannon seems to think it is already a foregone conclusion.

 

[RamiC]

22nd Amendment - "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice," The 22nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

 

[Nithavela]

I would be surprised if he doesn't try. The only thing I can see keeping him from attempting it are health issues.

I don't think he would be re-elected if he tries in 2028. It takes a few years for people to forget how a President Trump is, and in general US citizens tend to elect a democratic president to clean up after the recessions caused by republican governments. The earliest I could see him elected for a third term is 2032, which of course would make him 86.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

22nd Amendment - "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice," The 22nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

Assuming Trump is just a regular person and not a king. And I don't mean that as a joke. Some Christians compare him to King Cyrus, King David and King Jehu. Even Mike Johnson thinks he's Moses. Absurd!
The fact that Trump has downplayed the " Vice President " route to the Presidency remember this, he also said the new ballroom woud not touch the current Whitehouse. ONE BIG LIE.

Let us reason.
Please.

 

[d taylor]

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Mr President Trump is going to need at least 8 more years to finish the addition he is adding to the White house.

 

[PloverWing]

Apart from him lying yet again about his numbers (they are in the toilet), how about we get a consensus on this?

I don't see a path for him to be able to succeed in an action that is so clearly forbidden in the Constitution. He can make speeches and hold rallies all he wants, whatever. But at some point, people have to print his name on ballots, lots of people, and then swear him into office afterwards, even though the Constitution clearly states that he cannot hold the office. I don't see that many election officials going along with it.

The only path I can imagine is if the Constitution were to be amended to repeal the 22nd amendment. That's a possible legal thing. But amending the Constitution typically takes a long time, and it requires more than a simple majority: 2/3 vote in Congress and ratification by 3/4 of the states. I don't see that happening on this question in the next 3 years.

 

[Landon Caeli]

22nd Amendment - "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice," The 22nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

AI Overview

A constitutional amendment can be changed, repealed, or altered by passing a new amendment through the same difficult process that originally created it. This requires a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate to propose the new amendment, followed by ratification by three-fourths of the states. The new amendment can then modify or remove any part of the Constitution, including previous amendments.

 

[bèlla]

Trump As US V-P In 2028? President's ‘Too Cute’ Attack On Dems, Leaves Door Open For 3rd Term

Donald Trump has finally addressed the growing buzz about him possibly running as vice president in 2028. Speaking aboard Air Force One, Trump laughed off the speculation, calling the idea “too cute.” He said Republicans already have “great” future leaders like JD Vance and Marco Rubio to carry the torch.

 

[Yarddog]

22nd Amendment - "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice," The 22nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

Since when has Trump allowed the Constitution to stop him from dreaming. LOL

 

[Landon Caeli]

Assuming Trump is just a person and not a king. And I don't mean that as a joke. Some Christians compare him to King Cyrus, King David and King Jehu. Even Mike Johnson thinks he's Moses. Absurd!
The fact that Trump has downplayed the " Vice President " route to the Presidency remember this, he also said the new ballroom woud not touch the current Whitehouse. ONE BIG LIE.

Let us reason.
Please.

If we have to choose between Mamdani style communism, and a Trump style monarchy for this United States, and this becomes the new left/ right division going forward... We would need to decide on the lesser of two evils.

...Which would you prefer? Communism or Monarchy.

 

[DaisyDay]

22nd Amendment - "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice," The 22nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

Elected...what about appointed? Or just suspending elections altogether? He doesn't have the military in his pocket [yet], but he has been purging and promoting so who knows what it will look like by then?

 

[DaisyDay]

If we have to choose between Mamdani style communism, and a Trump style monarchy for this United States, and this becomes the new left/ right division going forward... We would need to decide on the lesser of two evils.

...Which would you prefer? Communism or Monarchy.

Mamdani is a socialist not a communist so your question is based on a false premise.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Elected...what about appointed? Or just suspending elections altogether? He doesn't have the military in his pocket [yet], but he has been purging and promoting so who knows what it will look like by then?

There's only a couple of pathways...both are unlikely.

1) the existing amendment would have to be repealed via another one. Which requires 2/3 of both houses to agree on an amendment, and then ratification via 3/4 of the states. Unless there's a red wave of epic proportions in both the federal and state levels (in a lot of states), that one's got a snowball's chance in hell.

2) A crazy hypothetical. (and maybe there's already another rule that squashes it). The verbiage says "nobody can be elected to the office of president more than twice". In 2028, he and JD Vance switch spots on the ticket so he's only "Running for VP", and then after all the swearing in is done, Vance voluntarily resigns, and the succession plan kicks in.

 

[PloverWing]

If we have to choose between Mamdani style communism, and a Trump style monarchy for this United States, and this becomes the new left/ right division going forward... We would need to decide on the lesser of two evils.

...Which would you prefer? Communism or Monarchy.

That's not the important question here. The question is whether the person in office will peacefully leave office when their term is up. Rule of law is a vitally important principle in the US, and the question is whether the people in office have to follow the law.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Mamdani is a socialist not a communist so your question is based on a false premise.

...But Government-owned grocery stores are a defining feature of Communism.

But with a Monarchy, such as with having a King Trump, we would still function economically, as is.

 

[DaisyDay]

There's only a couple of pathways

Sure, legally...but this is Trump.

 

[Tinker Grey]

It'll be amazing if he lives out this term.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

2) A crazy hypothetical. (and maybe there's already another rule that squashes it). The verbiage says "nobody can be elected to the office of president more than twice". In 2028, he and JD Vance switch spots on the ticket so he's only "Running for VP", and then after all the swearing in is done, Vance voluntarily resigns, and the succession plan kicks in.

The 12th Amendment is probably a barrier to that. "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

 

[RamiC]

Assuming Trump is just a person and not a king. And I don't mean that as a joke. Some Christians compare him to King Cyrus, King David and King Jehu. Even Mike Johnson thinks he's Moses. Absurd!

I thought that was his best chance, not changing the Constitution, but somehow finding a way to evade counting as a person. A Supreme Court precedent declaring him a "man" and distinguishing the two somehow.

Please everyone remember, CF rules do not allow denigrating public figures. He is a human being.