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US Citizens detained for hours during massive immigration raid that empties Chicago apartment building in the middle of the night

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I live next door to immigrants. They say they are engineers and fly an American flag. Is that good enough or should I ring their bell and check their papers. What then, sell my house?

Could you imagine such a utopia? Citizens informing on their neighbors? Hopefully we will reach this point before it's too late! We must defend freedom at all costs!
 
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Stories are piling up of American citizens and those otherwise legally in the United States being arrested or detained by federal agents carrying out warrantless raids.

Americans being stopped, brutalized, and detained by federal agents have become known as the "Kavanaugh Stop," [after] U.S. Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who wrote in a ruling that American citizens were not being swept up in the federal raids.

"If the officers learn that the individual they stopped is a U.S. citizen or otherwise lawfully in the United States, they promptly let the individual go."

[Clearly that doesn't describe the OP. Or many other incidents.]

One such incident happened last week when hundreds of federal agents descended upon an apartment building in Chicago, detaining and handcuffing people inside, including children. Over and over, American citizens tried to tell agents who they were, but were ignored. The ACLU of Illinois revealed in an interview with MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace that one man asked to see the warrant granted for the raid and demanded a lawyer. He received neither.

It's unclear whether a warrant was even obtained, wrote Legum, noting that feds haven't responded to requests to view one.
 
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They are targeting brown people at Home Depot parking lots. They are mostly not finding criminals, much less terrorists.

DHS spox McLaughlin: "[Gov. Pritzker] said there's racial profiling, which is absolutely false. Our officers use reasonable suspicion. That's protected under the US Constitution 4th Amendment."

The 4th Amendment requires probable cause, not reasonable suspicion.

Reasonable suspicion is a legal standard of proof that in United States law is less than probable cause, the legal standard for arrests and warrants
 
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Federal officials said 37 people were arrested, but several days after the raid, they have not been identified or charged with a crime.
It's been a month.

So far the government has alleged only two gang members were among those arrested. This is what required helicopters and zip-tying citizens.

Takeaways from AP report on a Chicago raid that signals a major escalation of immigration crackdown

The raid, led by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, targeted the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua, though officials said only two of the 37 immigrants arrested were gang members.
 
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It's been a month.

So far the government has alleged only two gang members were among those arrested. This is what required helicopters and zip-tying citizens.

Takeaways from AP report on a Chicago raid that signals a major escalation of immigration crackdown

The raid, led by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, targeted the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua, though officials said only two of the 37 immigrants arrested were gang members.
So there was Tren de Aragua there. And apparently 37 other illegals immigrants. Sounds like a successful raid. So they thought there more there. The fact that there were at least 2 is good enough for me.
 
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So there was Tren de Aragua there. And apparently 37 other illegals immigrants. Sounds like a successful raid. So they thought there more there. The fact that there were at least 2 is good enough for me.
Say, aren’t you the guys against wasteful government spending?
 
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