Trump dispenses with trials, orders military strike on alleged Venezuelan drug-trafficking boat (Now up to 2, 3, 4...)

[rjs330]

Yeah, a little bit.

I miss having leaders with a sense of shame.

Did Obama share his feelings of shame? I don't recall that.

 

[Yttrium]

There is s difference in hitting narcoterrorists on the high seas and going into American towns and cutting them down. Preventing them from crossing our borders in the first place is appropriate. And the military is under no obligation to give us the military intelligence regarding their actions on the high seas while protecting this country from these cartels that are killing Americans.

I'm still fuzzy on why these drug pushers are being called terrorists. They don't seem to be doing anything terror-oriented, as far as I can tell. Have they been blowing up buildings and stuff and I missed the headlines?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Did Obama share his feelings of shame? I don't recall that.

Yes, he did on one occasion.

Google AI:

The 2015 accidental killing of Warren Weinstein

In April 2015, Obama announced that a U.S. drone strike in January of that year had accidentally killed American aid worker Warren Weinstein and Italian aid worker Giovanni Lo Porto. Weinstein had been held hostage by al-Qaeda since 2011.

• Obama's response: Obama took "full responsibility for all our counterterrorism operations" and offered a direct apology to the victims' families. He expressed his deepest condolences and acknowledged the anguish the families were enduring.

 

[rjs330]

Yes, he did on one occasion.

Google AI:

The 2015 accidental killing of Warren Weinstein

In April 2015, Obama announced that a U.S. drone strike in January of that year had accidentally killed American aid worker Warren Weinstein and Italian aid worker Giovanni Lo Porto. Weinstein had been held hostage by al-Qaeda since 2011.

• Obama's response: Obama took "full responsibility for all our counterterrorism operations" and offered a direct apology to the victims' families. He expressed his deepest condolences and acknowledged the anguish the families were enduring.

I thought we were discussing the deliberate killing of terrorists and not about accidentally killing an American citizen. Did you think we were?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I thought we were discussing the deliberate killing of terrorists and not about accidentally killing an American citizen. Did you think we were?

I was discussing presidents having a sense of shame.

 

[wing2000]

There is s difference in hitting narcoterrorists on the high seas and going into American towns and cutting them down.

The principle is the same. The state is killing someone without providing them an opportunity to surrender and defend themeselves in court.

 

[rjs330]

I was discussing presidents having a sense of shame.

This thread is about military actions against enemies of this country. Its not about the military being asked to target American citizens accidental or not. Did Obama show shame for targeting the enemy?

 

[rjs330]

The principle is the same. The state is killing someone without providing them an opportunity to surrender and defend themeselves in court.

Thats not a requirement for terrorists on the high seas.