Criminal Illegal Alien Who Offered $10,000 Bounties to Murder ICE Agents Arrested in Dallas, TX

[Chesterton]

And yet you did. You dismissed my experience as being a product of propaganda from "lamestream" media.

Again, I don't know what experience you're talking about.

I see. So what is my side? What do I believe. Do tell.

You side with the Left and the Trump haters obviously.

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So you don't recall my objections that you literally started your response with?

Which response of mine are you referring to?

I generally find it useful in demonstrating my specific issues with a response. This time it certainly has proved fruitless.

Can you link me to the post where your responses are?

Do you have evidence my news sources are simply propaganda?

Yes. Your post.

What is my understanding?

You feel intimidated.

Why do you dismiss my point of view and minimize it ?

Because it's absurd.

 

[rjs330]

Yes they do. Your gaslighting won’t work on me. I’ve been hearing these people talk about needing their guns to keep an overbearing government in check all my life.

No they don't. They are not saying what you claim. They are not talking about a disagreement with how the government might enforce a law. They are talking about a government that has turned into a dictatorship and have removed our Constitutional rights and replaced them. Us second ammendment supporters do not believe that we need guns to protect us from the government who wants to enforce drug laws or immigration law or traffic law. Is that what you thought?

 

[rjs330]

Have you not been following the news? In every major city. LA, NYC, Portland, Chicago, Philadelphia…

Of course I have thats how I know they aren't being tyrannical.

No but it does explain the resistance this administration is getting. When the government does things the people don’t like, people tend to push back.

Yes we have a right to bring grievance or protest. We dont have a right to obstruct or get violent about it.

Maybe you should stop dismissing people’s concerns as just the result of the media they consume.

The media they consume makes a difference. There obviously is a faction of people who don't want the laws enforced. Or only want them enforced a certain way. Well too bad. That's ridiculous. As long as rhe agency is following the laws then attacking them and obstructing them is foolishness. You should be going after Congress to change the laws. Why on earth would people be concerned over agencies following the laws?

I don’t care. You’re gonna hear it as long as people feel it. We aren’t going to stop just because you don’t like hearing you elected an autocrat.

I see, so feelings is whats important. And you've provided no justification for calling Trump an autocrat.

 

[rjs330]

The right to bear arms is there and available whether there’s a need for it or not.

Of course.

What are they going to do? Shoot American citizens? That’s exactly what we have a second amendment for.

You think thats all they are able to do?

We probably would if the people being targeted were more the right wing militia 2A types and not goofy liberals in blow up costumes.

It's not rhe right-wing militia that is saying these things. Its you and other leftists. If it were right wing militias doing this I'd say the same things.

 

[rjs330]

I don’t believe you actually believe and think like this. Turns out all that talk about resisting tyranny was just that.

All talk.

So long as the government is punishing the people you don’t like, you’re fine with authoritarianism.

There is no tyranny and there is no authoritarianism. There is no facism.

There is rebellion though.

 

[rjs330]

Wow is this how you judge millions of people? By the actions of a minuscule number of people within the group?

I will forgive you for saying this. You haven't read all my posts on this subject.
The group we are talking about is illegal aliens. And I sincerely believe that the vast majority of them are not bad people.

However, by allowing so many in and not putting a stop.to it has also allowed some very bad people in.

Do you believe that a country has no right to police its own borders? Regardless if the people coming are decent people? Should we allow.anyone and everyone in who wants in as long as they are not criminals in their own country?

 

[Belk]

Again, I don't know what experience you're talking about.

You side with the Left and the Trump haters obviously.

Which response of mine are you referring to?

Can you link me to the post where your responses are?

Yes. Your post.

You feel intimidated.

Because it's absurd.

And there it is. My point of view, which you already know because I am on the other side, is absurd. Explain to me why I should listen to you when you dismiss me out of hand?

 

[Chesterton]

And there it is. My point of view, which you already know because I am on the other side, is absurd. Explain to me why I should listen to you when you dismiss me out of hand?

You should listen to me if you want to talk, and I'll listen to you. I'm not dismissing you, I'm just disagreeing with some of your ideas.

 

[Belk]

You should listen to me if you want to talk, and I'll listen to you. I'm not dismissing you, I'm just disagreeing with some of your ideas.

Now your going to quibble over a turn of phrase?

Yes, you are dismissing my ideas out of hand. You are calling the idea that people are intimidated by masked agents "absurd".

 

[BNR32FAN]

I will forgive you for saying this. You haven't read all my posts on this subject.
The group we are talking about is illegal aliens. And I sincerely believe that the vast majority of them are not bad people.

However, by allowing so many in and not putting a stop.to it has also allowed some very bad people in.

Do you believe that a country has no right to police its own borders? Regardless if the people coming are decent people? Should we allow.anyone and everyone in who wants in as long as they are not criminals in their own country?

I sincerely apologize friend, I thought you were talking about immigrants in general. Please accept my most sincere apology.

 

[Chesterton]

Now your going to quibble over a turn of phrase?

Yes, you are dismissing my ideas out of hand. You are calling the idea that people are intimidated by masked agents "absurd".

Just to be safe, I looked what "out of hand" means. In this context it basically means "without consideration". Despite ample opportunity, you've given me nothing to consider. Do you feel intimidated by ICE?

 

[Belk]

Just to be safe, I looked what "out of hand" means. In this context it basically means "without consideration". Despite ample opportunity, you've given me nothing to consider.

My first post to you was to point out that people are feeling intimidated, whether that was the intent or not. Your response was to dismiss this and claim it was nothing but propaganda. I then pointed out your dismissal and have spent multiple posts having to explain it. I'll take your claims of "ample opportunity" for what they are worth.

Do you feel intimidated by ICE?

I certainly feel intimidated by the idea of masked agents of the government violating the 4th amendment, yes.

 

[truthuprootsevil]

Criminal Illegal Alien Who Offered $10,000 Bounties to Murder ICE Agents Arrested in Dallas, TX | Homeland Security

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced the arrest of Eduardo Aguilar, an illegal alien from Mexico residing in Dallas, Texas, after he posted on TikTok in Spanish soliciting the murder of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents.

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One more off of the streets.

Since the states were formed, Sam Houston won the battle and captured Santa Anna, one can say illegal immigrants has been coming into the states.

This is the problem that always has been, and one thing is Santa Anna said they were going to take back Texas, and they've been diligently working on it.

States up north didn't worry about the illegal migration until they started moving North, a few decades ago around the 1970s and '80s.

Well getting certain people off the streets is always a win, and to target the criminal elements.

Now as it seen Trump is only trying to outdo/outnumber former president Obama's deportation numbers (like he lied about the crowd size), and his obsession with undoing anything he can that former president Obama established. Former president Obama was considered the deportation chief and he did it without all of this rhetoric and chaos that's going on from Trump & administration.

 

[Chesterton]

My first post to you was to point out that people are feeling intimidated, whether that was the intent or not. Your response was to dismiss this and claim it was nothing but propaganda. I then pointed out your dismissal and have spent multiple posts having to explain it. I'll take your claims of "ample opportunity" for what they are worth.

You've made this claim before, and in post #61, I asked you to show me where your responses were. You ignored my request.

I certainly feel intimidated by the idea of masked agents of the government violating the 4th amendment, yes.

If that's happening they have recourse, and could walk away with a nice payday from a lawsuit, just as 1st Amendment auditors sometimes do.

 

[Belk]

You've made this claim before, and in post #61, I asked you to show me where your responses were. You ignored my request.

Which I responded to in my next reply. Perhaps you should look again?

If that's happening they have recourse, and could walk away with a nice payday from a lawsuit, just as 1st Amendment auditors sometimes do.

I'm not sure your point here. Are you claiming it is not an issue because there is a possible recourse?

 

[Chesterton]

Which I responded to in my next reply. Perhaps you should look again?

I looked again. Nothing there.

I'm not sure your point here. Are you claiming it is not an issue because there is a possible recourse?

I'm claiming there is recourse if and when it is an issue.

 

[rjs330]

I certainly feel intimidated by the idea of masked agents of the government violating the 4th amendment, yes.

Well I think we would all agree that agents, masked or not violating the 4th ammendment would be a bad thing. But first it should be proven that they are. Take em to court and prove it. Just cause you "feel intimidated by the idea" doesn't mean its actually happening. Particularly in Portland and Chicago right now.

 

[Valletta]

Since the states were formed, Sam Houston won the battle and captured Santa Anna, one can say illegal immigrants has been coming into the states.

This is the problem that always has been, and one thing is Santa Anna said they were going to take back Texas, and they've been diligently working on it.

States up north didn't worry about the illegal migration until they started moving North, a few decades ago around the 1970s and '80s.

Well getting certain people off the streets is always a win, and to target the criminal elements.

Now as it seen Trump is only trying to outdo/outnumber former president Obama's deportation numbers (like he lied about the crowd size), and his obsession with undoing anything he can that former president Obama established. Former president Obama was considered the deportation chief and he did it without all of this rhetoric and chaos that's going on from Trump & administration.

This is about the disaster created by an administration violating the border laws to an extent beyond imagination in an effort to obtain future votes for one political party. Greed for more power and control created a human disaster, with human trafficking rising to a level not seen since the Civil War. Trump's promise to deal with the disaster is one of the reasons why he won the election.

 

[Belk]

I looked again. Nothing there.

If you do not see it then I feel no particular desire to waste more effort on you.

I'm claiming there is recourse if and when it is an issue.

Indeed. What a way to minimize the issue.

 

[Chesterton]

If you do not see it then I feel no particular desire to waste more effort on you.

I've invited you to put forth the effort twice and you didn't. You've put forth no effort.

Indeed. What a way to minimize the issue.

There is no issue.