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The key part of the question is why you think He would be wanting to be given Communion as if He's not the one who gives it.
When do you think they became legalistic?
When He asks if He can have communion. You are assuming that He will. Also, if you didn’t recognize Him why would you want Him giving it?
When churches, like areas of industry, contain many obstacles in the way of requirements for entry.
The assumption implies that there's some reason for Him to ask for it.
He gives it in reality. Maybe not in your denomination's theology, but that's the case in traditional Christian theology.
And roughly when do you think that happened in "today's churches"?
29 I tell you I will not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.” Matthew 26 - 29 ESV .
If, in accordance with the OP, and your "mind game" Jesus is a man (as in not God), then there is no church (as there was no church before the incarnation). It is not an entry requirement, it is the definition...
You need to get a bit more creative. It is a mental exercise. Assume as you wish.
Not part of this discussion.
It’s been progressively happening in what you call “traditional” for centuries and in regular churches for years.
Around the beginning of the second century because of persecution. The early church only admitted those that have been baptized. See the Didache. But again this is not part of the discussion.
Not quite, actually the reception of converts by baptism goes back to the 1st century, as does the caution against unworthy reception of Communion. See the books of Acts and 1 Corinthians, as well as the Didache.
You are under no obligation to respond if the novelty of your ideas about communion causes you distress.
Nah. We are going to disagree and this would be off topic to this thread,
lol someone is picking a fight. Not interested. Move on. I prefer civil discourse.
Not really. It is my thread and he seemed to be getting agitated. I simply told him first that if it bothered him then he didn’t need to participate. I was just being concerned and wanted to keep the thread from devolving into a my church is better than yours debate.
Yes really
Pointing out the flaws of your "mental exercise" does not equal getting agitated. You seemed agitated that people weren't willing to accept your premise.
Your whole premise implied a deficiency in Churches that practice closed communion.
No. Not really.
He was indeed getting agitated. In fact in his last post he went down the line of the “novelty of my ideas about communion” when I did not post any.
Well, to me it was all about the invitation. Those in open communion will always be open to the invitation while, apparently and as proven by this thread, those with close communion have a problem with the invitation. Look, a lot of folks here interpreted Ill intention from my part when there wasn’t any simply because I’m not a member of your church or the RCC. I’m done with this thread. I asked the mods to close it.
Your beliefs on this aren't exactly a secret, even if someone only read this thread.
No, it's because you haven't been willing to engage with discussion about your premise and want to restrict answers to a "yes" or "no," which comes across as a cheap "gotcha" tactic rather than a good faith invitation to a discussion.
Never have been a secret nor did I pretend it to be so. I’ve been here since 2007 and debated in many threads and you’ve been here for a couple of years and pretend to know me and what I believe? And obviously you have a bad impression of me. I don’t think I’ve ever talked to you before.
Why would it be a gotcha tactic. It didn’t have to be a yes or no question. I told you to get creative. Don’t assume. If this insults you so then maybe some prayer might help. We are both Christians so maybe a little brotherly love might be in order.
