Hamas now executing Palestinians who tried to help peace.

[DaisyDay]

Hamas executed collaborators., rather than deporting them.

Hilarious. Even if they'd a mind to do it, the exits are shut tight. Comparing the Gaza with the US is absurd as the respective situations and control are nowhere near to similar. Even Ukraine ain't the same as....maybe compare them to South Sudan or the Republic of Congo?

In contrast, this is not the case in Gaza, where a non-elected governing entity exercises power without representing the population's will and enforces capital punishment absent due process.

We don't actually know what process was followed or not.

Drawing parallels between this approach and the U.S. judiciary is therefore preposterous.

I agree - crying that an occupied, failed state in the throes of war and famine doesn't meet the same legal standards of prosperous stable countries is preposterous.

But once again, the initial criticism was the horror of Gaza "executing its own citizens" period; now it has morphed from that to they don't execute their own citizens as nicely as we do ours. Phfft.

 

[Lukaris]

I think some opinions in this thread probably feel that the people Hamas executes had it coming.

 

[mark46]

Twenty years ago with no elections held there after.

agreed
let's count the elections in Saudi Arabia and the rest
also, please note that countries at war often don't have regular elections
And, of course, autocrats or terrorists, often have only one.

 

[mark46]

The ONLY one bringing up Islam is you - I have not mentioned it anywhere in this thread. There is no need to reference statements as a terrorist interpretation of something not part of the discussion.

So..... the only imagination being effected is yours.

hmmm

I must have been the one to bring up jihad. If so, I apologize

 

[mark46]

I think some opinions in this thread probably feel that the people Hamas executes had it coming.

Under the LAWS of many countries, the crime of treason is punishable by death. And yes, working with the enemy during a war is indeed treason is most countries.

Let's be clear. Should the leaders in a war against a country who has destroyed their country simply said thank you to those who cooperated with the Israelis? Perhaps, Hamas should have arrested these people and taken them to bombed out holding cells so that judges could try them in bombed out courts. Let's be real. Israel wouldn't do the same. They would simply put their traitors in prison for life if they were on Israeli soil. If you believe that they didn't kill people who opposed them who lived in Gaza, well, what can I say?

Let's be even more clear. The war is NOT over. When Hamas shoots at Israeli troops, it is a violation of the truce. If they execute Gazans, that is NOT a violation. How could it be?
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This is precisely why it was and continues to be a travesty that US has allowed so many who worked for us in our war against the Taliban to stay and be at the mercy of the Taliban.

 

[mark46]

I agree - crying that an occupied, failed state in the throes of war and famine doesn't meet the same legal standards of prosperous stable countries is preposterous.

I agree

 

[Lukaris]

Under the LAWS of many countries, the crime of treason is punishable by death. And yes, working with the enemy during a war is indeed treason is most countries.

Let's be clear. Should the leaders in a war against a country who has destroyed their country simply said thank you to those who cooperated with the Israelis? Perhaps, Hamas should have arrested these people and taken them to bombed out holding cells so that judges could try them in bombed out courts. Let's be real. Israel wouldn't do the same. They would simply put their traitors in prison for life if they were on Israeli soil. If you believe that they didn't kill people who opposed them who lived in Gaza, well, what can I say?

Let's be even more clear. The war is NOT over. When Homas shoots at Israeli troops, it is a violation of the truce. If they execute Gazans, that is NOT a violation. How could it be?
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This is precisely why it was and continues to be a travesty that US has allowed so many who worked for us in our war against the Taliban to stay and be at the mercy of the Taliban.

I made no references either way about Israel and have mixed opinions towards. Regardless, Hamas started this conflict with slaughtering people, put people in harm’s way to be slaughtered and continues to slaughter people to keep the conflict going.

 

[mark46]

I made no references either way about Israel and have mixed opinions towards. Regardless, Hamas started this conflict with slaughtering people, put people in harm’s way to be slaughtered and continues to slaughter people to keep the conflict going.

I agree.

 

[mark46]

I think some opinions in this thread probably feel that the people Hamas executes had it coming.

I can consider putting myself in the place of those who lost so many relatives and friends to Israeli bombs.

How would I feel if half a dozen who collaborated with the Israelis were executed in the public square?
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Living thousands of miles away in an area that hasn't been invaded since 1812, the response may be clear, especially for the devout of any of our faith communities.

 

[Always in His Presence]

hmmm

I must have been the one to bring up jihad. If so, I apologize

Hmmm... I quoted Hamas not Islam

I must have been the one who did NOT make the connection that was never brought up.

 

[Lukaris]

I can consider putting myself in the place of those who lost so many relatives and friends to Israeli bombs.

How would I feel if half a dozen who collaborated with the Israelis were executed in the public square?
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Living thousands of miles away in an area that hasn't been invaded since 1812, the response may be clear, especially for the devout of any of our faith communities.

I believe if Hamas had the firepower of the Israelis, a second holocaust would happen. Then we have to consider what is collaboration in Hamas’ view? The Nazis had death squads that executed old men who didn’t want to fight the Soviets in the streets of burning Berlin in April 1945. That is my perception of Hamas.

I don’t know what can be done in this situation and Israel seemed to handle it’s affairs ( the victories in the 1967 & 73 wars for ex.) better before becoming a US client state under the Carter administration.

Those of us who are able can at least try to send relief aid to groups like Doctors Without Borders etc. and pray.

 

[linux.poet]

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