When Jesus Returns, Will We Know It's Him?

[Hvizsgyak]

When Christ returns this universe is going to disappear. There won't be any doubt.

But what happens if Satan comes first and makes people believe the universe is disappearing

 

[Clare73]

Many, many points here to contend with on this one. As almost every Christian knows, when Jesus returns, He will do it in the same way as He ascended to Heaven (so the angels said) (They said, “Men of Galilee, why are you standing there looking at the sky? This Jesus who has been taken up from you into heaven will return in the same way as you have seen him going into heaven.” ACTS 1:11).

We are also told that many will come pretending to be Jesus. What if these false Jesus' arrive the same way Jesus said He would return?

So you are saying the false Jesus will descend from heaven on a cloud just as Jesus ascended into heaven on a cloud?

Where did you get that idea, certainly not from the aposolic teaching (1 Th 4:16-17) of Jesus Christ (Lk 10:16).

 

[Hvizsgyak]

So you are saying the false Jesus will descend from heaven on a cloud just as Jesus ascended into heaven on a cloud?

Where did you get that idea, certainly not from the aposolic teaching (1 Th 4:16-17) of Jesus Christ (Lk 10:16).

Hey, if I can come up with this scenario, don't you think Satan (who is way smarter and clever than me) can do the same thing? I really don't understand here all this over-confidence that we would easily be able to identify the real Jesus from the false Jesus.

Let me give you a couple of scenarios:

1. The real Jesus comes from the Heavens at the same spot He ascended into Heaven. After cordial talk with the people there, He says "we are off to the Vatican to meet with my Vicar on Earth here." Jesus hangs out with Pope Leo and reassures the faithful that the gates of Hell could never destroy His Church. Are you ready to follow Jesus into the Catholic Church?

2. A False Jesus comes from the Heavens at the same spot where the real Jesus ascended into Heaven. After cordial talk with the people there, the false Jesus says "we are off to the Vatican to meet with my Vicar on Earth here." Jesus hangs out with Pope Leo and reassures the faithful that the gates of Hell could never destroy his church. Would you believe this false Jesus and follow him into the Catholic Church?

3. A False Jesus comes from the Heavens at the same spot where the real Jesus ascended into Heaven. After cordial talk with the people there, the false Jesus says "lets us meet with all the Evangelical leaders". A Catholic who was in the crowd says "Will you meet with the Pope too?" The false Jesus says "the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church are idolators and will be punished". Do you follow the false Jesus thinking he is the real one?

And there are many, many more very gray scenarios that can be created. Do you not think about how you would react to these?

 

[Hentenza]

But what happens if Satan comes first and makes people believe the universe is disappearing

Satan is nothing but a scammer. Follow the anti scammer protocol in Gal. 1.

 

[DragonFox91]

It will be so close, but not right. He does not come w/ a pitchfork & devil horns but w/ a loving smile & sweet-talk


There won't be any doubt.

The other thing I was thinking is: he is ultimately a liar. Genuine Christians will know him by Truth

 

[Bluebird60b]

I don't believe that the return of Jesus Christ will be just spiritual, because the angel told His disciples:

“Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”” (Ac 1:11 NKJV)

Also, we are told that every eye will see Him:

“Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.” (Re 1:7 NKJV)

A spirit is invisible.

Since there is bi-location for humans, how about billion- location then for our Lord and savior Jesus Christ? Since he is already in every ones heart.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Many, many points here to contend with on this one. As almost every Christian knows, when Jesus returns, He will do it in the same way as He ascended to Heaven (so the angels said) (They said, “Men of Galilee, why are you standing there looking at the sky? This Jesus who has been taken up from you into heaven will return in the same way as you have seen him going into heaven.” ACTS 1:11).

We are also told that many will come pretending to be Jesus. What if these false Jesus' arrive the same way Jesus said He would return? How would we know the difference. Yes, maybe after a while we would start to see the falseness in those impersonators but at first, we may not.

And now that I put "the false Jesus appearing the same way the real Jesus is suppose to arrive" into your head, what happens if the real Jesus arrives but we are too cautious to recognize Him afraid we might get duped.

When Jesus arrives, there won't be a doubt, nobody will doubt it's Him. Not only will it be abundantly obvious to everyone, but He comes to Judge. If the heavens aren't rolling up like a scroll, if the dead aren't rising out of their graves to go and greet Him as He descends in glory, if the things Scripture says and the Church has always believes isn't happening--then it's not Jesus.

If I can doubt that it's actually Jesus, then it's not Jesus.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

When 10 people or so saw Jesus ascend into heaven and he returns to the same spot, how can billions of people from around the world fit into that spot to welcome him back? I currently hold the belief that he won't return physically, but thru the holy spirit like at the first Pentecost. Giving them the ability to speak in tongues, convection to die as blood martyrs, and all the other graces that came out of those tongues of fire.

No, it's literal and physical. It doesn't require billions to be located in the same spot, and it won't require television broadcasts or other speculatory guesses. Scripture says every eye will see Him.

We don't need to speculate the specifics, nor do we need to doubt the truth. Christ will return in glory, and it will be obvious--everyone will see it, know it is Him, and He comes to judge--the dead will be raised.

These old bones will literally come out of the dirt, made new and glorious. Just as Christ rose, so also shall we rise.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[JulieB67]

What if these false Jesus' arrive the same way Jesus said He would return?

I believe Satan and his will try and mimic the return of Christ in some way. That's why Paul states one must have the full gospel armor on and in place to fight the wiles of the devil. Whoever is here during that time must be able to stand during that "evil day". Christ tells us he comes at an hour most do not expect. That's why knowing the timing is so important. We don't know the day or hour but Christ lays out the signs and Paul is another witness to what must happen before our gathering back together.

And in 1st Thes we are told people will be stating peace and safety and then bam, destruction, the true Christ returns. We have to be on watch and not fall away to the fake. And we have to heed the warnings by both Christ and Paul on not to be deceived by any means. There's a reason the foolish virgins don't make it even though they were waiting and there's a reason that Christ turns people away that stated they did things in his name. So we have to be careful and know the fake comes first. It's very important. Apostasy and the man of sin will arrive first and proclaim to be God. And will show wonders that will have the entire world follow after him.

We have to stay on watch and when the real Christ returns there will be no doubt at all. And like some say, pinch yourself. If you're still in a physical body, Christ has not returned. In that twinkling of an eye, all are changed.

 

[JulieB67]

He does not come w/ a pitchfork & devil horns but w/ a loving smile & sweet-talk

So true That will be his MO. As Paul states he's transformed (disguised in the Greek) as an angel of light...