Criminal Illegal Alien Who Offered $10,000 Bounties to Murder ICE Agents Arrested in Dallas, TX

[Belk]

Why would they want to do that?

I'd probably feel intimidated too if I believed lamestream news. Do not succumb to its indoctrination! It's just the politics of fear, which your side has used long before Trump was around. Remember the TV commercial with a Republican pushing a grandmother in a wheelchair off a cliff to her death? Trump's going to serve for life as a dictator, and Trump wants to do this, and Trump's trying to do that. It's always something. You guys are scared of your own shadow. We've only had two decent presidents in my lifetime, and Trump is one of them. You should really relax and enjoy it.

Are you seriously going to sit there and explain away my experience with some bulldust reference to "Lamestram" news? Let me return the favor

All your news sources are lying to you and your entire understanding is malarkey easily explained away because I don't view things the same as you.

What a pathetic excuse for dismissing my entire POV.

 

[Chesterton]

Are you seriously going to sit there and explain away my experience with some bulldust reference to "Lamestram" news? Let me return the favor

All your news sources are lying to you and your entire understanding is malarkey easily explained away because I don't view things the same as you.

What a pathetic excuse for dismissing my entire POV.

How can I explain your experience when I don't know what it is? I can only judge by what you said. Do you have any evidence that my news sources are lying to me? What is my understanding? Why don't you address what I said?

 

[Belk]

How can I explain your experience when I don't know what it is? I can only judge by what you said. Do you have any evidence that my news sources are lying to me? What is my understanding? Why don't you address what I said?

Did you not read your own post that I directly quoted you doing exactly that? Claiming I have been giving in to "lamestream" news propaganda and then declaring what "My side" has done? It is right there quoted in the post you just responded to.

 

[Chesterton]

Did you not read your own post that I directly quoted you doing exactly that? Claiming I have been giving in to "lamestream" news propaganda and then declaring what "My side" has done? It is right there quoted in the post you just responded to.

I know what I said. I made statements about your side. I also asked you four questions and you didn't attempt to answer any of them. Do you want to talk or not?

 

[Belk]

I know what I said. I made statements about your side. I also asked you four questions and you didn't attempt to answer any of them. Do you want to talk or not?

I see. So not only have you magically determined what my experience is but you also know what "my side" is? Did you not register any of my objections to your characterization at all? Why on earth would I want to converse when you have already decided what my position is and why I hold it?

As to your questions, do you not understand my response was rhetorical in an attempt to point out the issues I saw in your initial response to my post? The same things you seem to object to and question are the EXACT things I am pointing out as problematic in your first response.

 

[Chesterton]

I see. So not only have you magically determined what my experience is...

You said I had explained your experience. I said I didn't because I don't know your experience. Instead of explaining your experience as I asked you to, you repeat your claim. You okay?

...but you also know what "my side" is?

Yes.

Did you not register any of my objections to your characterization at all?

I don't recall seeing any. Remind me what they were.

Why on earth would I want to converse when you have already decided what my position is and why I hold it?

To correct me?

As to your questions, do you not understand my response was rhetorical in an attempt to point out the issues I saw in your initial response to my post?

Do you always answer questions with questions? Usually you're supposed to answer with answers.

The same things you seem to object to and question are the EXACT things I am pointing out as problematic in your first response.

I must be slow. What things are those?

 

[rjs330]

No, the second amendment types believe this.

No they don't.

 

[rjs330]

Yes.

Where and how?

That’s the effect it’s causing.

So thats not the purpose. Just cause some people dont like it, doeant mean they are correct. I know people who are "triggered" just because they see a police officer. Even though when you talk to them they've never had a bad experience with one.

Maybe law abiding citizens ought to quit listening to left wing media and rhetoric about tyranny and facism that isnt really happening.

And that’s the excuse from the federal government sending in the forces against local government demands and court orders telling them not to.

Except the courts have ruled they can.

I doubt you’d be critical enough to say it’s not.

You'd be incorrect in thinking that.

Yeah but we don’t want to make the fascist’s jobs too easy for them.

See, thats rhe rhetoric that is actually causing the problems.

 

[rjs330]

That’s only if the ICE agents are overstepping their boundaries. People have a right to defend their lives and property even from the government. This right doesn’t only apply to white people.

Sorry if that makes y’all uncomfortable.

ICE isnt running around shooting people for being illegal. What property aee you talking about that needs defending with deadly force where agents have lawful warrants?

Man, no wonder we need the NG. With those kinds of comments it's a wonder we don't have more people killing agents. Keep up that kind of rhetoric and we will. Holy cow.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Fantastic. These aee the types of people that are being let in as a result of our liberal immigration policies.

You sure about that?

Aguilar entered the U.S. illegally in 2018 as an unaccompanied minor. On February 8, 2019, an immigration judge issued him a final order of removal. His criminal history in the U.S. includes charges for violating liquor laws. ​

 

[rjs330]

Right. You would just let the government have its way with you. We still have a right to self defense even against government agents.

I actually believe if the government really is being a.dicratorship.and facist, as an American you have an obligation to shoot any government agent. After all is that not what the founders did in their revolution?

If you did that and then succeeded in over throwing the facist government you'd be a hero! Don't you believe that this government is autocratic and facist? Then why don't you pick up your gun and go fight it? Go grab all your friends who believe the same things and go fight! Whats stopping you? If you really do believe what you are saying you must act.

 

[rjs330]

You sure about that?

Aguilar entered the U.S. illegally in 2018 as an unaccompanied minor. On February 8, 2019, an immigration judge issued him a final order of removal. His criminal history in the U.S. includes charges for violating liquor laws. ​

And now hes in trouble for wanting to kill federal agents. Thats quite a leap feom liquor law violations to proposing killing federal agents. I wonder what else he had been up to.

Sounds like he should have been deported a while ago..

 

[iluvatar5150]

And now hes in trouble for wanting to kill federal agents. Thats quite a leap feom liquor law violations to proposing killing federal agents. I wonder what else he had been up to.

Sounds like he should have been deported a while ago..

I was trying to highlight the juxtaposition of supposed "liberal immigration policies" with the dates in which he arrived here and was ordered deported.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

No they don't.

Yes they do. Your gaslighting won’t work on me. I’ve been hearing these people talk about needing their guns to keep an overbearing government in check all my life.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Where and how?

Have you not been following the news? In every major city. LA, NYC, Portland, Chicago, Philadelphia…

So thats not the purpose. Just cause some people dont like it, doeant mean they are correct.

No but it does explain the resistance this administration is getting. When the government does things the people don’t like, people tend to push back.

Maybe law abiding citizens ought to quit listening to left wing media and rhetoric about tyranny and facism that isnt really happening.

Maybe you should stop dismissing people’s concerns as just the result of the media they consume.

See, thats rhe rhetoric that is actually causing the problems.

I don’t care. You’re gonna hear it as long as people feel it. We aren’t going to stop just because you don’t like hearing you elected an autocrat.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

ICE isnt running around shooting people for being illegal. What property aee you talking about that needs defending with deadly force where agents have lawful warrants?

The right to bear arms is there and available whether there’s a need for it or not.

Man, no wonder we need the NG.

What are they going to do? Shoot American citizens? That’s exactly what we have a second amendment for.

Sorry if you don’t like the implications of that. The better thing to do is not have an authoritarian president who sends in the military to respond to protests. That’s not the kind of escalation we need right now while tensions are high.

With those kinds of comments it's a wonder we don't have more people killing agents. Keep up that kind of rhetoric and we will. Holy cow.

We probably would if the people being targeted were more the right wing militia 2A types and not goofy liberals in blow up costumes.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I actually believe if the government really is being a.dicratorship.and facist, as an American you have an obligation to shoot any government agent. After all is that not what the founders did in their revolution?

If you did that and then succeeded in over throwing the facist government you'd be a hero! Don't you believe that this government is autocratic and facist? Then why don't you pick up your gun and go fight it? Go grab all your friends who believe the same things and go fight! Whats stopping you? If you really do believe what you are saying you must act.

I don’t believe you actually believe and think like this. Turns out all that talk about resisting tyranny was just that.

All talk.

So long as the government is punishing the people you don’t like, you’re fine with authoritarianism.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Fantastic. These aee the types of people that are being let in as a result of our liberal immigration policies.

Wow is this how you judge millions of people? By the actions of a minuscule number of people within the group?

 

[Chesterton]

Do you honestly believe they're being sent to intimidate law-abiding citizens?

That is the intended effect.

Why would they want to do that?

I have a general rule against posting about someone not replying to me. The vast majority of the time I just ignore it and let it slide. But it's been happening so much from people on your side. I think people are more unhinged in 2025 than they were during Trump's first term. I could post examples of others ignoring me after they say absurd things but I'd be violating CF rules if I did.

So the question is why? Why do you say absurd things you can't back up? There's no possible answer you could give which wouldn't make you sound like you needed professional help. You obviously don't believe the thing you yourself said, so why do you say it?

 

[Belk]

You said I had explained your experience. I said I didn't because I don't know your experience. Instead of explaining your experience as I asked you to, you repeat your claim. You okay?

And yet you did. You dismissed my experience as being a product of propaganda from "lamestream" media.

Yes.

I see. So what is my side? What do I believe. Do tell.

I don't recall seeing any. Remind me what they were.

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So you don't recall my objections that you literally started your response with?

You said I had explained your experience.

To correct me?

I have been trying, but it has been an uphill slog.

Do you always answer questions with questions? Usually you're supposed to answer with answers.

I generally find it useful in demonstrating my specific issues with a response. This time it certainly has proved fruitless.

I must be slow. What things are those?

Do you have evidence my news sources are simply propaganda? What is my understanding? Why do you dismiss my point of view and minimize it ?