Criminal Illegal Alien Who Offered $10,000 Bounties to Murder ICE Agents Arrested in Dallas, TX

[Belk]

Do you honestly believe they're being sent to intimidate law-abiding citizens?

I don't know if that is the intent, but it is certainly part of the effect.

Now that is a good second amendment argument.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Are they?

Yes.

Is that the purpose?

That’s the effect it’s causing.

Or are they being deployed to protect the agents from a rebellious froup of people who are trying to prevent the agents from doing their Constitutionally supported jobs and using violence to do so?

And that’s the excuse from the federal government sending in the forces against local government demands and court orders telling them not to.

From what I've seen its needed.

I doubt you’d be critical enough to say it’s not.

They could all stay home if the radical left would stop obstructing and acting violent.

Yeah but we don’t want to make the fascist’s jobs too easy for them.

 

[Chesterton]

That is the intended effect.

Why would they want to do that?

I don't know if that is the intent, but it is certainly part of the effect.

I'd probably feel intimidated too if I believed lamestream news. Do not succumb to its indoctrination! It's just the politics of fear, which your side has used long before Trump was around. Remember the TV commercial with a Republican pushing a grandmother in a wheelchair off a cliff to her death? Trump's going to serve for life as a dictator, and Trump wants to do this, and Trump's trying to do that. It's always something. You guys are scared of your own shadow. We've only had two decent presidents in my lifetime, and Trump is one of them. You should really relax and enjoy it.

 

[Hentenza]

Isn’t that what the second amendment is for?

Inciting violence is not part of the first or second amendment. It could actually be a crime.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Inciting violence is not part of the first or second amendment. It could actually be a crime.

How is telling people to exercise their constitutional rights an incitement to violence?

 

[Hentenza]

How is telling people to exercise their constitutional rights an incitement to violence?

Saying that someone should be shot is not exercising their constitutional rights.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Saying that someone should be shot is not exercising their constitutional rights.

Who said that?

Edit: I see now you must be talking about the OP. I’m just commenting on the bit about Don Lemon.

 

[Hentenza]

Who said that?

Edit: I see now you must be talking about the OP. I’m just commenting on the bit about Don Lemon.

Yes I was talking about the OP but Don Lemon lost his job for saying what he did. The only interpretation of what he said was for people to use their newly legally purchased weapons to shoot the officers that come to their door. His comments were at best irresponsible and at worst calling for the formation of a militia to shoot police and ICE agents.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Yes I was talking about the OP but Don Lemon lost his job for saying what he did.

Did he? I hadn’t heard that part.

The only interpretation of what he said was for people to use their newly legally purchased weapons to shoot the officers that come to their door.

That’s not my interpretation so you’re wrong.

His comments were at best irresponsible and at worst calling for the formation of a militia to shoot police and ICE agents.

That’s only if the ICE agents are overstepping their boundaries. People have a right to defend their lives and property even from the government. This right doesn’t only apply to white people.

Sorry if that makes y’all uncomfortable.

 

[Hentenza]

Did he? I hadn’t heard that part.

You live under a rock then.

That’s not my interpretation so you’re wrong.

Yeah. Forgot to factor in the rabid far left interpretation.

That’s only if the ICE agents are overstepping their boundaries. People have a right to defend their lives and property even from the government. This right doesn’t only apply to white people.

Nope. Drawing guns on armed police is a really bad idea but the far left likes martyrs so they can loot and get new tvs.

Sorry if that makes y’all uncomfortable.

Not me. I’m not drawing a firearm on police. I’m good.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

You live under a rock then.

Or maybe you’re just confused.

Don Lemon was let go over two years ago. It couldn’t have been related to comments he made recently about the current ICE raids.

Yeah. Forgot to factor in the rabid far left interpretation.

Well you’re still wrong. We can just look at his actual words quoted and see there is no incitement to violence. Go and quote the part you think is relevant to your interpretation.

Nope. Drawing guns on armed police is a really bad idea but the far left likes martyrs so they can loot and get new tvs.

Fortunately that’s not anything Don Lemon said to do. You can try reading his words again.

Not me. I’m not drawing a firearm on police. I’m good.

Right. You would just let the government have its way with you. We still have a right to self defense even against government agents.

Sorry that bothers you.

 

[Hentenza]

Or maybe you’re just confused.

Don Lemon was let go over two years ago. It couldn’t have been related to comments he made recently about the current ICE raids.

He said something stupid a couple of years ago and continue to say stupid stuff now.

Well you’re still wrong. We can just look at his actual words quoted and see there is no incitement to violence. Go and quote the part you think is relevant to your interpretation.

The journalist and former CNN anchor had suggested on podcast The Left Hook with Wajahat Ali that "Black people, brown people of all stripes" should "legally" get a gun in case their homes were visited. He also added he was "not condoning or promoting violence."

Don Lemon telling people to arm themselves against ICE sparks MAGA fury

The ex-CNN anchor was speaking on podcast The Left Hook with Wajahat Ali when he made the comments.

www.newsweek.com

What did you think the guns are for? And he saying that he is not condoning violence is rubbish. He wants people to take out guns at ICE and shoot ICE agents. Again us a really bad idea to take out a gun in law enforcement. This will cost lives but I guess you condone that kind of thing.

Fortunately that’s not anything Don Lemon said to do. You can try reading his words again.


Right. You would just let the government have its way with you. We still have a right to self defense even against government agents.

I would submit and then sue the hell out of them. If George Floyd would have done that he would still be alive today.

Sorry that bothers you.

What bothers me is the call for violence by your leftist side that is not protected under the constitution. No where is the second amendment does it give anyone the right to draw guns against law enforcement. Your side disobedience nonsense cost people’s lives.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

He said something stupid a couple of years ago and continue to say stupid stuff now.

The journalist and former CNN anchor had suggested on podcast The Left Hook with Wajahat Ali that "Black people, brown people of all stripes" should "legally" get a gun in case their homes were visited. He also added he was "not condoning or promoting violence."

Don Lemon telling people to arm themselves against ICE sparks MAGA fury

The ex-CNN anchor was speaking on podcast The Left Hook with Wajahat Ali when he made the comments.

www.newsweek.com

There you go. You were mistaken. No apology necessary.

What did you think the guns are for?

You tell me what guns are for.

And he saying that he is not condoning violence is rubbish. He wants people to take out guns at ICE and shoot ICE agents.

That’s your own interpretation.

Again us a really bad idea to take out a gun in law enforcement.

Yeah that’s what I’ve been saying for years against those second amendment “don’t tread on me” types. This is just their right wing foolishness being reflected back and no surprise, you guys don’t like it.

This will cost lives but I guess you condone that kind of thing.

Not at all. It’s been the right that has advocated for gun ownership to protect against a tyrant. Now the left is joining them.

We should be glad we’ve found some common ground!

I would submit and then sue the hell out of them. If George Floyd would have done that he would still be alive today.

Floyd did not have that option. He was submitted and subdued and restrained with an officer on his neck for almost 10 minutes. That’s why he died.

What bothers me is the call for violence by your leftist side that is not protected under the constitution.

No one is calling for violence. Arming oneself is a constitutional right. Advocating for an legally armed citizenry is a constitutional right.

No where is the second amendment does it give anyone the right to draw guns against law enforcement. Your side disobedience nonsense cost people’s lives.

Someone should tell all the right wing militias about this. It’ll be news to them.

 

[Hentenza]

There you go. You were mistaken. No apology necessary.

Nah. I’m not wrong.

You tell me what guns are for.

Paper weights.

That’s your own interpretation.

It’s the obvious interpretation except of course yours.

Yeah that’s what I’ve been saying for years against those second amendment “don’t tread on me” types. This is just their right wing foolishness being reflected back and no surprise, you guys don’t like it.

I’m not a right winger so I wouldn’t know. Don’t care. But taking out a gun on law enforcement has a high probability that the person will be shot. Stupid idea.

Not at all. It’s been the right that has advocated for gun ownership to protect against a tyrant. Now the left is joining them.

Well you go ahead and take a gun out on law enforcement. Just have someone tell us do we can take up a collection to send flowers for your funeral.

We should be glad we’ve found some common ground!

Not really. I’m not a left winger.

Floyd did not have that option. He was submitted and subdued and restrained with an officer on his neck for almost 10 minutes. That’s why he died.

Floyd had an option when he was given a lawful order to get out of his car. He would still be alive if he would have exited the car and out his hands behind his back. Of course being high on meth didn’t help either.

No one is calling for violence. Arming oneself is a constitutional right. Advocating for a legally armed citizenry is a constitutional right.

Don Lemons and others for your side are in fact calling for violence.

Someone should tell all the right wing militias about this. It’ll be news to them.

Not me. I’ll leave that for you to worry about.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Nah. I’m not wrong.

You were.

You said he was fired for these comments he made recently regarding ICE agents. That’s not correct. You were wrong.

No apology needed though. I’m just happy to help.

 

[NxNW]

They could all stay home if the radical left would stop obstructing and acting violent.

Never happened.

 

[NxNW]

I’m not a right winger so I wouldn’t know. Don’t care. But taking out a gun on law enforcement has a high probability that the person will be shot. Stupid idea. Just have someone tell us do we can take up a collection to send flowers for your funeral.

Then why are Republicans encouraging it?

 

[Hentenza]

You were.

You said he was fired for these comments he made recently regarding ICE agents. That’s not correct. You were wrong.

No apology needed though. I’m just happy to help.

One stupid comment similar to another stupid comment does not make me wrong. Stupid is as stupid does. lol

 

[Hentenza]

Then why are Republicans encouraging it?

Because a good portion of republicans are right wingers.

ETA: but come to think of it I don’t remember reading an article about republicans taking guns out on law enforcement. Can you post one?

 

[NxNW]

You should really relax and enjoy it.

Last time I heard a Republican use that phrase, he was talking to rape victims. Interesting you'd use it in context with Trump.