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Is President Trump Corrupt? Three Stories.

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Is President Trump Corrupt? Take a look at these three stories.

Trump says Qatari jet could be ready for use as Air Force One in 6 months.

Experts are deeply skeptical

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/10/politics/qatar-jet-trump-air-force


Then, following that incredible story, an even more unprecedented development.


The Trump-approved Qatari base in Idaho should raise major security concerns



To sum up the first story, the Qatari jet to be used as AF1 is possibly worth $400 million, and is a personal gift to Trump. It will cost the taxpayers a billion dollars.

In the second story, Trump issues an “executive order” “Assuring the Security of the State of Qatar.” The order far exceeds Presidential power, it should require approval by the Senate as a major treaty. During the entire Israel/Hamas war, or Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip, the leaders of Hamas were living in luxury in Qatar. Trump’s order puts Qatar “on par with our NATO allies.” Then came the incredible news that Qatar will be allowed to build, or take possession of, a military base in Idaho. Huh?


The USA, and the American people get nothing out of this, but it gets worse. “Back in April, a Trump-owned company struck a deal to open a vast golf resort in Qatar.”

The third story is from the Associated Press.

Trump company strikes Qatari golf resort deal in a sign it’s not holding back from foreign business

Updated 11:27 PM EDT, April 30, 2025

Trump company strikes Qatari golf resort deal in a sign it's not holding back from foreign business



To sum up, the Emir of Qatar has given Donald Trump a golf resort deal and then a jumbo jet. In return, Qatar gets a security status comparable to a NATO ally and even gets a military base in Idaho. Congress needs to say NO to all of the above. It is obvious that Donald Trump has sold out America to its foreign enemies.

 

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Is President Trump Corrupt? Take a look at these three stories.

Trump says Qatari jet could be ready for use as Air Force One in 6 months.

Experts are deeply skeptical

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/10/politics/qatar-jet-trump-air-force


Then, following that incredible story, an even more unprecedented development.

The Trump-approved Qatari base in Idaho should raise major security concerns



To sum up the first story, the Qatari jet to be used as AF1 is possibly worth $400 million, and is a personal gift to Trump. It will cost the taxpayers a billion dollars.

In the second story, Trump issues an “executive order” “Assuring the Security of the State of Qatar.” The order far exceeds Presidential power, it should require approval by the Senate as a major treaty. During the entire Israel/Hamas war, or Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip, the leaders of Hamas were living in luxury in Qatar. Trump’s order puts Qatar “on par with our NATO allies.” Then came the incredible news that Qatar will be allowed to build, or take possession of, a military base in Idaho. Huh?


The USA, and the American people get nothing out of this, but it gets worse. “Back in April, a Trump-owned company struck a deal to open a vast golf resort in Qatar.”

The third story is from the Associated Press.


Trump company strikes Qatari golf resort deal in a sign it’s not holding back from foreign business

Updated 11:27 PM EDT, April 30, 2025

Trump company strikes Qatari golf resort deal in a sign it's not holding back from foreign business



To sum up, the Emir of Qatar has given Donald Trump a golf resort deal and then a jumbo jet. In return, Qatar gets a security status comparable to a NATO ally and even gets a military base in Idaho. Congress needs to say NO to all of the above. It is obvious that Donald Trump has sold out America to its foreign enemies.
Remember, the Supreme Court had granted him immunity so according to the law , everything he does is perfectly within his purview.
 
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It's obvious that you have an anti Trump bias.
Are you pro-corruption or something? It sure looks like an anti-corruption post to me.
 
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Are you pro-corruption or something? It sure looks like an anti-corruption post to me.
If Trump is corrupt, then so are our most recent presidents.
 
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If Trump is corrupt, then so are our most recent presidents.
Even if true, that's not an excuse for corruption. It just means we have more people to investigate.
 
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Do you really want to talk about the corruption of Obama and Biden?
It will be a short conversation. You can throw in GW Bush while your at it and get all of the 21st century presidents. In fact the only president or VP in my life time that I can think getting paid personally as president is VP Spiro Agnew, who was taking cash bribes in the WH complex. (Mostly as I recall for his work as Governor of Maryland.) Even Nixon at most tried to stretch the definition of "taxable deduction" when overvaluing his papers before donating them to the National Archives.

We are talking about receiving money *as President*, not after, and not campaign donations.
 
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Trump is unapologetically unprincipled and lacking in character. The guy loves money above all else and has a middle school mentality. That's his brand and he revels in it. Corruption and vice have been part of the package for decades. Unfortunately, none of this matters to his constituents.

They seem to regard politics as inherently dirty and their strategy is to have the dirtiest guy on their side. An approach that has worked to an extent, but stands to backfire badly in my opinion. Ill gotten gains don't have as strong a foundation as those obtained with integrity.

The previous administration was also corrupt, but Trump takes the cake.
 
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Do you really want to talk about the corruption of Obama and Biden?

Donald Trump accepted a personal gift from Qatar, the Emir of Qatar, of a jet worth around $400 million (and probably a Trojan Horse.) If you totaled up every bribe in Amreican history before Donald Trump took office for his second term, would they add up to $400 million? I doubt it.

I don't have to defend Obama or Biden but I don't know anything even remotely similar when they were in office.
 
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Do you really want to talk about the corruption of Obama and Biden?

I am not in the business of defending Joe Biden. I wish the Democrats had nominated someone else.

Nevertheless, for comparison, I went to Snopes.com and did a search for “Biden bribe.”

Here is one of the first things to come up.

Snopes Headline:
Does FBI Have Evidence That Joe Biden Received $5M Bribe from Burisma Exec?

Conclusion: “There is no evidence to suggest that Joe Biden, or the Biden family, received money in exchange for political actions. That fact remains unchanged despite the inconsistent and logically incongruous assertions of evidence presented by both Grassley and Comer, as well as Giuliani.”


https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/06/22/biden-bribe-claims/
 
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Is President Trump Corrupt? Take a look at these three stories.

Trump says Qatari jet could be ready for use as Air Force One in 6 months.

Experts are deeply skeptical

https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/10/politics/qatar-jet-trump-air-force


Then, following that incredible story, an even more unprecedented development.

The Trump-approved Qatari base in Idaho should raise major security concerns



To sum up the first story, the Qatari jet to be used as AF1 is possibly worth $400 million, and is a personal gift to Trump. It will cost the taxpayers a billion dollars.

In the second story, Trump issues an “executive order” “Assuring the Security of the State of Qatar.” The order far exceeds Presidential power, it should require approval by the Senate as a major treaty. During the entire Israel/Hamas war, or Israeli invasion of the Gaza Strip, the leaders of Hamas were living in luxury in Qatar. Trump’s order puts Qatar “on par with our NATO allies.” Then came the incredible news that Qatar will be allowed to build, or take possession of, a military base in Idaho. Huh?


The USA, and the American people get nothing out of this, but it gets worse. “Back in April, a Trump-owned company struck a deal to open a vast golf resort in Qatar.”

The third story is from the Associated Press.


Trump company strikes Qatari golf resort deal in a sign it’s not holding back from foreign business

Updated 11:27 PM EDT, April 30, 2025

Trump company strikes Qatari golf resort deal in a sign it's not holding back from foreign business



To sum up, the Emir of Qatar has given Donald Trump a golf resort deal and then a jumbo jet. In return, Qatar gets a security status comparable to a NATO ally and even gets a military base in Idaho. Congress needs to say NO to all of the above. It is obvious that Donald Trump has sold out America to its foreign enemies.
Yes, Qatari gave Hamas money. It makes no sense. That people are fine with this. He wants to bail out Argentina, he let Argentina win our Soybeans account from China. Also his crimes, that he was indicted on. He talked about sexual assaulting women. Going in pageant locker rooms. And he doesn't seem to care about the middle class, free lunch for kids. Affordable insurance for the lower class. He's in the middle of a Ball room project. While the government is shutdown.
 
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Trump sure likes to pardon some white collar criminals that commit fraud. What is up with that anyway? He also told the DOJ to quit prosecuting bribery of foreign officials, yet recently the DOJ got involved in smartomatic because they are the ones suing Fox and others for their statements about their voting machines. So lawfare is supercharged in the Trump era.
 
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I am not in the business of defending Joe Biden. I wish the Democrats had nominated someone else.

Nevertheless, for comparison, I went to Snopes.com and did a search for “Biden bribe.”

Here is one of the first things to come up.


Snopes Headline:
Does FBI Have Evidence That Joe Biden Received $5M Bribe from Burisma Exec?

Conclusion: “There is no evidence to suggest that Joe Biden, or the Biden family, received money in exchange for political actions. That fact remains unchanged despite the inconsistent and logically incongruous assertions of evidence presented by both Grassley and Comer, as well as Giuliani.”


https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/06/22/biden-bribe-claims/
Snopes is always known as an unreliable source.
 
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Trump sure likes to pardon some white collar criminals that commit fraud. What is up with that anyway? He also told the DOJ to quit prosecuting bribery of foreign officials, yet recently the DOJ got involved in smartomatic because they are the ones suing Fox and others for their statements about their voting machines. So lawfare is supercharged in the Trump era.
game recognizes game
 
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