Speaker Johnson describes planned No Kings rally as ‘hate America,’ ‘pro-Hamas’ gathering

[NxNW]

Suddenly the rule of law equals authoritarianism.

Since when does Trump observe the law?

 

[rjs330]

Since when does Trump observe the law?

What are you referring to? Are you referring to the political prosecution he faced in a kangaroo court? If so, I don't care about that.

His current administration is enforcing the law as they should.

What exactly is your point with this statement?

 

[Fantine]

I was not at any of the rallies--sprained my knee at the fitness center

But pictures and videos friends have posted from all over the country show joy, community, solidarity. Costumes. Posters. Good will. One friend told me after church that at the end of our town's 1000 member rally were two Trump supporters with a Trump 2028 sign.

"They didn't bother us and we didn't bother them," she said. "That's free speech."

 

[BCP1928]

What are you referring to? Are you referring to the political prosecution he faced in a kangaroo court? If so, I don't care about that.

His current administration is enforcing the law as they should.

What exactly is your point with this statement?

Quite a large number of people, including some federal judges, are of the opinion that he is not enforcing the law as he should.

 

[Fantine]

Quite a large number of people, including some federal judges, are of the opinion that he is not enforcing the law as he should.

Really? Then I guess the next rally should be called "No Kings--No Kangaroo Courts!" Let those judges read the Constitution.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Hmmm... the protests are still protesting things that aren't happening, rendering them moot. And the fact that rhey are still going to be able to do them, is proof of that, so I don't know. I think I've been clear as well and whatever your claim is, is also moot.

The narratives promoted by these protestors—such as claims of authoritarianism or dictatorship—may not have merit, yet millions of Americans subscribe to these perspectives. In a democracy, we do not have the privilege of disregarding public opinion based on personal beliefs. Within a democratic framework, there are two primary approaches: one can work to change public opinion or choose to align with it. Merely criticizing or dismissing public sentiment is generally considered unwise in a democratic society.

Regardless of one's position on these protesters, it is clear that millions of Americans are participating in this movement and intend to voice their dissatisfaction at the polls in thirteen months. Historical trends suggest that when public sentiment is strongly reflected, significant political shifts can occur. For instance, in 2018, a comparatively smaller protest group contributed to Democrats gaining 40 seats in the U.S. Congress. Similarly, the Tea Party movement in 2010, which was notably smaller than the current No King movement, resulted in a 60-seat shift and led to Republican control of Congress for the 2011 legislative year. In 2006, the anti-war movement—less prominent than the No King movement—also shifted Congressional power toward the Democrats. These events illustrate how changes in public opinion have influenced legislative outcomes in recent American history.

Republicans and the White House might label protesters as anti-American, as Speaker Johnson did, then highlight their policy achievements on Fox News to supporters or adjust policies to increase among some Americans who are not part of MAGA movement so there are more then 40% American vote for republican on mid-term. Ultimately, for Republicans to retain control of Congress, they will need broader support beyond their core MAGA base.

 

[Fantine]

Johnson obviously hates the 7 million American patriots who defended democracy.
He's the hater.

 

[rjs330]

The narratives promoted by these protestors—such as claims of authoritarianism or dictatorship—may not have merit, yet millions of Americans subscribe to these perspectives. In a democracy, we do not have the privilege of disregarding public opinion based on personal beliefs. Within a democratic framework, there are two primary approaches: one can work to change public opinion or choose to align with it. Merely criticizing or dismissing public sentiment is generally considered unwise in a democratic society.

Regardless of one's position on these protesters, it is clear that millions of Americans are participating in this movement and intend to voice their dissatisfaction at the polls in thirteen months. Historical trends suggest that when public sentiment is strongly reflected, significant political shifts can occur. For instance, in 2018, a comparatively smaller protest group contributed to Democrats gaining 40 seats in the U.S. Congress. Similarly, the Tea Party movement in 2010, which was notably smaller than the current No King movement, resulted in a 60-seat shift and led to Republican control of Congress for the 2011 legislative year. In 2006, the anti-war movement—less prominent than the No King movement—also shifted Congressional power toward the Democrats. These events illustrate how changes in public opinion have influenced legislative outcomes in recent American history.

Republicans and the White House might label protesters as anti-American, as Speaker Johnson did, then highlight their policy achievements on Fox News to supporters or adjust policies to increase among some Americans who are not part of MAGA movement so there are more then 40% American vote for republican on mid-term. Ultimately, for Republicans to retain control of Congress, they will need broader support beyond their core MAGA base.

The Demeocratic Party has lost a lot of support. The No Kings protests are emblematic of the radical left. In watching videos of the protests in is very apparent that they are do radicalized that they would NEVER give support to Republicans No matter what they did. This is the Democratic Party today. This is who has taken over the party. Mid terms are historically a loss for the Party in power. Its happened to nearly every president. I don't think thats going to happen this time. As long as the economy stays relatively stable and doesn't suddenly tank i think the Republicans keep the house and the senate. Only 27% of Americans have a positive view of Democrats.

Normal Americans do not support the radical left. Democrats are losing voters.

New York Times Report Is Horrifying News For Democratic Party

So unless they make a change ir something happens to the economy the Democrats are going to in trouble the next election. And the longer the Democrats keep the government shut down they will see a decline in support.

 

[Fantine]

I don't really know if that's so. My sister in Florida said that she and her husband had been to several places recently--the bank, the motor vehicle office--where people inquired about their political party when there was no need to get that information. They vote regularly and haven't changed their address for 14 years.
She felt this might be a way for DeSantis to intimidate people and make them afraid to register to vote or register as Democrats. I said, "Well, they can always register as Republicans and vote however they want. That might be a good idea. Lots of money would be spent sending them things in the mail about candidates they would never vote for. Or perhaps they would get a little bit complacent--which would be good."
We lived in Long Island when you had to be a Republican (and contribute 1% of your salary to the Republican Party) to get a county job. My aunt did this for years. Sen. Alphonse D'Amato lost his senate seat over the scandal (that was when people were ethical enough to be outraged over such a thing.) I am sure there were people who wanted county jobs who never voted Republican.

 

[rjs330]

Johnson obviously hates the 7 million American patriots who defended democracy.
He's the hater.

Lol. They werent all Americans. And they were not doing anything but being silly. If they really were defending democracy then they would be marching in support of Trump removing illegals because thats part of our democracy as the laws were democratically passed.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

The Demeocratic Party has lost a lot of support. The No Kings protests are emblematic of the radical left. In watching videos of the protests in is very apparent that they are do radicalized that they would NEVER give support to Republicans No matter what they did. This is the Democratic Party today. This is who has taken over the party. Mid terms are historically a loss for the Party in power. Its happened to nearly every president. I don't think thats going to happen this time. As long as the economy stays relatively stable and doesn't suddenly tank i think the Republicans keep the house and the senate. Only 27% of Americans have a positive view of Democrats.

Normal Americans do not support the radical left. Democrats are losing voters.

New York Times Report Is Horrifying News For Democratic Party

So unless they make a change ir something happens to the economy the Democrats are going to in trouble the next election. And the longer the Democrats keep the government shut down they will see a decline in support.

The use of terms such as "radical left," "Marxist," or "anti-American" by certain members of the Republican Party to describe the Democratic Party does not change the fundamental nature of the Democratic Party. Likewise, when some liberals refer to the Republican Party using labels such as "racist," "fascist," "authoritarian," or "dictatorial," these characterizations do not alter its core identity.

Most Americans recognize that the Republican Party is not controlled by the far right, while the Democratic Party is not controlled by the far left.

As a result, applying labels such as "radical," "Marxist," "racist," "fascist," "Nazi," or "Hitler" lacks support from factual evidence and logical reasoning. Such terminology is often employed in lieu of substantive debate. It is advisable to encourage discussions that focus on facts and informed analysis, rather than resorting to inflammatory language.

Anyone who has studied history or followed politics is aware that, following any presidential election, the losing party typically experiences a decline in favorability—even among its own members. For example, after President Obama assumed office in 2009, Americans viewed the GOP favorably by 23%. However, twenty-four months later, the GOP gained 63 seats in the House and severely weakened the Obama coalition. Similarly, when President Trump took office in 2017, American favorability toward the Democratic Party was 37%. Yet, within twenty-four months, Democrats won 41 seats.

President Trump is a skilled politician with steadfast supporters. He won two out of three elections he ran, dominating his primary opponents in 2016 and 2024. However, he has struggled to transfer his support to others in the GOP. Since 2016, the GOP has performed better when President Trump is on the ballot but has struggled when he is not. The 2022 midterm election highlighted this weakness in GOP candidates without Trump. Anyone unable to connect these facts is not objectively analyzing political trends, but rather reacting emotionally.

The results of next month's governor elections in Virginia and New Jersey will provide an early forecast for the 2026 midterms. Historically, these states tend to elect governors from the party opposite that of the White House, especially in Virginia.

 

[Fantine]

Lol. They werent all Americans. And they were not doing anything but being silly. If they really were defending democracy then they would be marching in support of Trump removing illegals because thats part of our democracy as the laws were democratically passed.

They were my friends and neighbors, and I have joined them on occasion. Couldn't be there but they told me the spirit was tremendous. Knowing the level of growing support they had was so encouraging.

With the "king" dropping virtual feces on NYC in a display of adolescent stupidity, it doesn't surprise me that many of his supporters are adding to the "dump" on forums across the internet.

And if virtual, verbal, and written feces are the best response they can give, I am optimistic about who will get dumped next November.

 

[durangodawood]

....And if virtual, verbal, and written feces are the best response they can give, I am optimistic about who will get dumped next November.

Trump didnt get where he's at by alienating his supporters. I think they like that sort of thing.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Trump didnt get where he's at by alienating his supporters. I think they like that sort of thing.

Trump is still okay with his followers, which imho does note reflect well on them. His approval though, has really dropped with Independents and of course, is terrible with Democrats.

Rachel Maddow covered the protests and I was impressed by the volume and numbers of rallies that took place in all 50 states. There were 100 rallies in Michigan alone. Thousands turned out in a rally held in The Villages in Florida. There were multiple rallies held in Idaho, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana, Alabama, Iowa, Nebraska and other red states. I think she said there were 60 rallies in Arizona. Most of the rallies had a large number in attendance.

Here is the video about the protests:

Here is an article about the rallies in Alaska:

No Kings day: Alaskans rally with creative signs, costumes and animals to protest Trump | Alaska Beacon

Protests were held in at least 25 communities across Alaska for the No Kings day protest, condemning Trump as abusing power and demanding respect for rights.

alaskabeacon.com

Alaskans came out to protest the Trump administration as part of the nationwide No Kings protest on Saturday, with speeches, songs, and increasingly creative flair — signs, slogans, and costumes, some as inflatable animals like eagles and polar bears.

In downtown Anchorage, protesters filled Town Square Park, and the crowd spilled over to line W 5th and W 6th avenues, where they waved signs and passing cars honked in support.

“It’s a matter of we are losing our rights,” said Keri Lord of Anchorage, dressed in a long cape and crown for the no kings theme. “And we are headed towards fascism, and it needs to stop now.”

About the protests in Idaho:

Amid a government shutdown and nationwide “No Kings” protests that drew millions, thousands and thousands of people — some dressed as inflatable frogs, dinosaurs and unicorns — gathered around the Idaho Capitol and in Cecil D. Andrus Park in Boise on Saturday to rally against the Trump administration. The crowd, which many in attendance said was the largest they had seen, raised American flags and signs denouncing President Donald Trump, and listened to about an hour of speeches — from the protest’s organizing group, Idaho 50501, as well as the American Civil Liberties Union of Idaho, and from gubernatorial candidate Terry Pickens, a Democrat.​

Read more at: https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/politics-government/article312557751.html#storylink=cpy

 

[BCP1928]

The whole affair was, I imagine, frightening to the Conservatives. Violence and looting that they knew how to respond to, were hoping for, did not materialize. The number of demonstrators and especially their discipline was awesome.

 

[wing2000]

The Demeocratic Party has lost a lot of support. The No Kings protests are emblematic of the radical left. In watching videos of the protests in is very apparent that they are do radicalized that they would NEVER give support to Republicans No matter what they did.

Yea, those radicals dressed up in inflatable costumes. They must be the "radical left"! ROFL

One of those people was a 49-year-old woman wearing a massive inflatable costume of a bald eagle dressed as Uncle Sam. “It’s absurd. This is everyday Americans who are looking at … every day there’s something new that is illegal or anti-constitutional,” the eagle said when I asked her about the GOP’s antifa and Hamas allegations. “The most American thing I think we can do is vote, and then the second most American thing you can do is peaceful protest.… I am proud to be an American, and I am proud to be part of this country, and I am an incredible supporter of the United States Constitution.”

Republicans Should Be Afraid—Just Look at Who Joined No Kings Protests

For days, Republicans have been claiming No Kings protesters are all agitators and terrorists. Well, America had a different message for them, and for their Dear Leader.

newrepublic.com

 

[MrMoe]

Protester gets on the mic and shouts “These ICE agents gotta get shot and wiped out.”

No Kings is the Seinfeld of protests: A show about nothing

The No Kings rallies are pointless, like Seinfeld's show about nothing. Trump was elected by a landslide and has high approvals.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[ViaCrucis]

Protester gets on the mic and shouts “These ICE agents gotta get shot and wiped out.”

No Kings is the Seinfeld of protests: A show about nothing

The No Kings rallies are pointless, like Seinfeld's show about nothing. Trump was elected by a landslide and has high approvals.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Is it better if the president suggests doing the violence?

Esper said he and other top officials were caught off guard by Trump's reaction to the unrest in the summer of 2020.

"We reached that point in the conversation where he looked frankly at [Joint Chiefs of Staff] Gen. [Mark] Milley and said, 'Can't you just shoot them, just shoot them in the legs or something?' ... It was a suggestion and a formal question. And we were just all taken aback at that moment as this issue just hung very heavily in the air."

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/09/1097517470/trump-esper-book-defense-secretary

-CryptoLutheran

 

[wing2000]

Protester gets on the mic and shouts “These ICE agents gotta get shot and wiped out.”

No Kings is the Seinfeld of protests: A show about nothing

The No Kings rallies are pointless, like Seinfeld's show about nothing. Trump was elected by a landslide and has high approvals.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Congrats...you found one protester out of 7 million calling for violence.