But how does it support the claims of ancient technology and lost knowledge?
By archeologists acknowledging that sophisticated, social and religious cultures existed way earlier than we thought.
Which other GT have been named?
Just within eastern Turkey there are suppose to be at least 20 GT yet to be unearthed. They are usually in the form of a mound, hense GT was known as Pot belly hill. there are many and tests have intitially found evidence. But even GT itself is only around 1/10th discovered. Its pretty big.
Other sites similar to Göbekli Tepe include
Çatalhöyük,
Karahan Tepe and
Nevalı Çori, Taş Tepeler in Turkey. Also
Malta's Megalithic Temples and
Caral-Supe and other sites in the Americas including Peru.
We know that modern humans have existed for perhaps 300k years. People's existence by itself is not strange.
But if we were around for 300K and our brains were more or less the same then it seems unreal that it took us so long to invent stuff. How do we know we have not already gained certain knowledge only to lose it and start again. At least in sections of the planet.
If civilisation was concentrated around certain areas that also suffered catastrophe then it makes sense that over 300,000 years we have had big changes to the earths climate, or disasters, earth quakes, floods, ect. We have the mass extinction event of Mega Forna only around 12,000 years ago which would have wiped out humans as well.
Let's excavate it before it is used as evidence of anything.
Hum we already have sort of. Petrie found it and so did others. I agree lets escavate it as its one of the last great treatsures of the Egyptians. Thats unless we find something under the Gixa pyramids in the meantime lol.
Discovery of secret tunnels below Egypt's Giza pyramids linked to forgotten underworld
Egyptologist Armando Mei has shared his stunning discoveries beneath Egypt's Giza pyramids, hidden passages that may lead to an underground world mentioned in ancient texts.
www.dailymail.co.uk
A vast network of underground chambers and water tunnels have been discovered beneath several of the world’s most well-known pyramids, including the Great Pyramid on Egypt’s Giza Plateau.
www.ancient-origins.net
But not evidence for ancient technology or lost knowledge. Do you have a reference for the timeframe? The stones seem to be of roman origin.
Yes the temple of Venus that sits on top of the megalith foundations which were already there and from an earlier time. Other large megalth blocks such as the 'Pregnant Women' which weights 1200 ton and another 1500 ton are still in the ground.
The tech knowledge comes in the form of being able to cut and move such massive blocks so early in time. Even the Romans could not move these mega blocks of granite.
Which most believe it's a natural formation.
Since when did nature create near perfect stairs.
There is disagreement and scientists also think it man made. It resembles other prehistory megaliths and signatures like this at Mount Nokogiri Japan. Its very similar to other sites like Sayhuite, Peru.
A lead Yonaguni expert
Dr Kimura presented at the 11th Annual Symposium on Maritime Archaeology and History of Hawaii and the Pacific , they found quarry marks all over, the loop road that winds around the bottom just like the other quarries with over 150 dives, Kimura has studied the site more extensively.
text translation service for many worldwide languages Today is Saturday, February 25, 2023 Professor Kimura and his students show below a variety of artifacts, including carved stones with recognisable symbols and a number of underwater megaliths showing distinct evidence of...
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By the way, how do you think they cut the sharp edges on the cliff faces up so high. Some 200 feet abover the ground. Was that a hand saw. Did they pound and rub them into existence.
How is volcanic glass hinting at a metallurgical precursor?
I think they mean that the blade was as sharp as a metal surgical blade. So a non metal precusor to a very sharp cutting tool. I think the real point is that its 12,000 years old.
Expertly balanced? What is the meaning of that?
Ah they mean they work lol. They can be thrown to catch prey and not go sideways or lose direction when thrown through the air lol.
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Are you sure about the timeframe?
Seems so
Preserved wooden spears from hundreds of thousands of years ago seem to have been suitable for throwing, not just close-range attacks
www.newscientist.com
What are the connections to ancient technology and lost knowledge? There are archeological traces of hominids predating modern humans. That is not enough.
No that if humans were building wooden shelters near 500,000 years ago it would be no surprise that they have developed some advanced knowledge along the way and then lost it. Probably more than once. Or in certain places throughout time.
The chances of humans gaoing all sorts of knowledge that we don't even understand seems great considering we have only developed our advanced knowledge in the last 5,000 years.
Especially knowledge in our recent past around 8,000 to 14,000 years ago with the megaliths and out of place works that speak of a peak in knowledge that more or less dissappear fairly suddenly.
How most cultures speak of this as advanced knowledge lost from the gods. No to say that this is from the gods but that it was a higher and deeper knowledge of nature and reality that allowed them to achieve such great works.
Empirical, based on experience. It is the normal way to learn. What do you mean?
No experience itself is subjective, You experience something about what it is like to experience that something lol. It has to be qualified or rather quantified. That is science. Its using sense data and applying it to a quantified measure according to an assumption and the empirical evidence that comes from experiemnets ect.
But if you notice the initial phenomena of the world and reality is experiencential. Experiences immersed in reality. So science is trying to detach itself from this 1st person experience to then quantify whats happening according to a prior assumption that its fundementally naturalistic.
Science (methological naturalism) will only look for and count the naturalistic (phyical and observable) causes. Science has to remove the subject from the equation to be able to do its work.
Yet experience is really a subjective phenomena and we can gain knowledge of reality directly through experiencing it which cannot be measures quantitatively. Is not material or physical. So already science omits a large chunk of possibility as a non cause.
It is this experiential knowledge that I think is related to the ancients and how they were immersed in nature and by extention reality in the 1st person. So they were able to gain knowledge of reality through direct experiences. Which enabled them to understand some of its secrets to be able to manipulate it. Or understand ways in how nature itself worked and utilised it.
