Why do people hate ICE...

[Always in His Presence]

And let’s keep in mind, that 70 something million votes is still less than 1% more than Harris received.

What does that have to do with who likes ICE?

 

[ralliann]

What does that have to do with who likes ICE?

It doesn't.

 

[Always in His Presence]

From AI:

As of October 2025, Donald Trump's approval rating on immigration is underwater, with disapproval outweighing approval in several polls, though figures vary by survey
. His approval on the issue is consistently higher among Republicans than among independents or Democrats.
Recent polling data includes:

• Quinnipiac University (Sept. 2025): 41% approve, 55% disapprove.
• Washington Post–Ipsos (Sept. 2025):44% approve, 55% disapprove.
• AP-NORC (July 2025): 43% approve, with a slight dip from 49% in March.
• Reuters/Ipsos (Sept. 2025): 42% approve, which was his highest rating on any single issue in that poll.
• Pew Research Center (June 2025): 42% approve, 47% disapprove of his overall approach to immigration.
• Gallup (June 2025): 35% approve, 62% disapprove.

That is where you're missing it.

The polls are speaking of the total populist - the 78,000,000 are Republicans. If you ask your AI what is his approval on immigration among Republicans:

As of October 17, 2025, President Donald Trump (in his second term) maintains strong support on immigration policies among Republicans, despite a broader decline in overall public approval amid mass deportation efforts, protests, and economic concerns. Recent polls indicate Republican approval ratings on his immigration handling or deportation program ranging from 85% to 93%, with no major shifts reported since mid-summer.

Here's a summary of key findings from the most recent relevant national polls (June–July 2025, as no October-specific breakdowns are available):

Poll Source	Date	Overall Approval on Immigration	Republican Approval on Immigration
Reuters/Ipsos	June 21–23, 2025	43%	85%
Quinnipiac University	June (exact dates not specified)	Not specified (net negative)	87%
USA Today (unspecified pollster)	July 16–18, 2025	42% (deportation program)	91%
Axios (Reuters/Ipsos)	July 15–16, 2025	Not specified (new low)	85%

 

[GoldenBoy89]

What does that have to do with who likes ICE?

You brought up how many people voted for deportations.

What did that have to do with who likes ICE?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

That is where you're missing it.

The polls are speaking of the total populist - the 78,000,000 are Republicans.

Not sure how this makes your point.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

the 78,000,000 are Republicans

There are only about 40 million registered Republicans in the US.

 

[Always in His Presence]

There are only about 40 million registered Republicans in the US.

WOWSERS - that means 38,000,000 independents and Democrats thought Trump was best for President.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

WOWSERS - that means 38,000,000 independents and Democrats thought Trump was best for President.

Actually, looks like I was incorrect - we don't actually know the exact number of Republicans (or Democrats or independents) because a significant number of states don't include party affiliation in their registration data. Nationwide, there are about 40 million registered Republicans, 45 million registered Democrats, and 35 million registered unaffiliated/independent, plus about 3 million registered under minor parties (e.g. Green, American Solidarity, etc). That only accounts for ~120 million of the ~190 million registered voters in the country though.

If we consider the ratios in the known data to be representative, that gives you another ~20 million Republicans for a total of 60 million. The point, though, is that a huge percentage of Republicans supporting Trump's immigration policies does not mean that a huge percentage of voters support his policies. Republicans only represent roughly 1/3 of the electorate.

 

[Paulos23]

78,000,000 voted for the deportations -

There are 400,000,000~ people in the country, so not even a majority.

And some of them have buyer's remorse.

 

[Paulos23]

The problem is not ICE. The problem is violent groups like antifa. And people calling for them to be shot and killed.

Go look up some videos of ICE and tell me that throwing people to the ground is normal police procedure.

I don't recall this going on during Obama's, Trump's 1st term, and Biden's terms. And both Obama and Biden exported more people than Trump, and didn't need ICE to resort to these types of tactics.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Go look up some videos of ICE and tell me that throwing people to the ground is normal police procedure.

Right after you go look up some videos of Antifa and these similar groups burning down building, causing billions of dollars in damage and attacking innocent people in cars and tell me it is peaceful protesting.

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

I've never had a illegal immigrants hurt me or threaten me. I believe Trump and the media over exaggerate. Right now ICE is violently hurting people, illegal or not. They have been beating American people up. Ruining people fun. When ICE can take their time. Without the torture. Like they did, when other presidents. But ICE is doing what Trump wants. Trump wants ICE to brutalized people.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

Right after you go look up some videos of Antifa and these similar groups burning down building, causing billions of dollars in damage and attacking innocent people in cars and tell me it is peaceful protesting.

Antifa aren't the government. I would hope a government agency would behave better than an anarchist group. Unfortunately, ICE thugs are proving us wrong.

 

[Paulos23]

Right after you go look up some videos of Antifa and these similar groups burning down building, causing billions of dollars in damage and attacking innocent people in cars and tell me it is peaceful protesting.

Compared to ICE, ICE is scarier since they have government athourity on their side. Antifa only goes after select buildings and stores, ICE seams to be coming for everyone.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Compared to ICE, ICE is scarier since they have government athourity on their side. Antifa only goes after select buildings and stores, ICE seams to be coming for everyone.

The only people who should fear antifa are fascists.

 

[camille70]

How Trump is Building a Violent, Shadowy Federal Police Force

Trump’s DHS appointees have dismantled civil rights guardrails, protected agents’ anonymity and encouraged them to wear masks, threatened groups that stood in their way, and overwhelmed legal challenges to their arrests and tactics.

www.propublica.org

Unfettered and Unaccountable: How Trump is Building a Violent, Shadowy Federal Police Force

 

[ViaCrucis]

Basically there are two main positions on Immigration law. Those who want safety and secuirty of borders but also law and order in society. Then there are the radical Marxist ideologues who want open borders and defund the police as they believe there should be no borders and law and order is oppression.

Horse dung.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[stevevw]

Horse dung.

-CryptoLutheran

The case for open borders

The case for open borders - Freedom Socialist Party

From 2018, the first time Trump was in power, an excellent examination of the relationship of immigrants to the whole U.S. working class.

socialism.com

What is the Left case for open borders?

What is the Left case for open borders? – Political Critique [DISCONTINUED]

politicalcritique.org

Sanctuary Cities, Border Crisis Costs, and a Rude Awakening for the Left

Sanctuary Cities, Border Crisis Costs, and a Rude Awakening for the Left

Record numbers of illegal immigrants are entering the country illegally and spreading throughout the interior of United States—and it’s playing out in a sadly predictable way. Sanctuary cities like Washington, D.C., New York City and Chicago are sagging under the weight of the cost required to...

www.heritage.org

The left must embrace law and order

The left must embrace law and order

In France and elsewhere, everyday insecurity hurts the poor much more than the rich.

www.newstatesman.com

Student acceptance of violence in response to speech hits a record high
Over the past five years, it's gone up almost 80%

Student acceptance of violence in response to speech hits a record high

In 2020, just 1 in 5 students said it was acceptable to use violence to stop a speaker. Now it’s 1 in 3 — a nearly 80% jump in five years.

www.thefire.org

The constant talk of offering sanctions for illegal immigrants and blocking the Federal governments attempts to control border, claiming they are legal, as well as the constant talk of making out immigration security is like being Nazis and fascists is fueling the fire of radicals who are now using terror.

The same idea has been pushed by the radical Left over crime. Criminals are victims of oppressive white system and therefor measures are taken to minimize penalties and laws which fuels more crime. The highest crime is in dem cities.

This is the same mentality for when the radical Left kept framing Trump and conservatives as Nazis and that they will destroy democracy. When you keep framing the opposition as Nazis and that they are a threat to democracy then you encourage radicals and that is exactly what we are seeing now.

 

[camille70]

Immigration agents have held more than 170 Americans against their will, ProPublica finds

Immigration agents have held more than 170 Americans against their will, ProPublica finds

By � Nicole Foy , photography by � Sarahbeth Maney ,�for ProPublica When the Supreme Court recently allowed immigration agents ...

www.dailykos.com

 

[rjs330]

Immigration agents have held more than 170 Americans against their will, ProPublica finds

Immigration agents have held more than 170 Americans against their will, ProPublica finds

By � Nicole Foy , photography by � Sarahbeth Maney ,�for ProPublica When the Supreme Court recently allowed immigration agents ...

www.dailykos.com

130 of those 170 were arrested for obstructing or assault. Not for being suspected illegals.

It sounds like 50 of those arrested were released without charges.

There was a recent court case ordering agents to use body cams. I'm highly in favor of that.

But basically Americans are rarely being detained as illegals. Even 20 of the Americans picked up were kids who were with illegal parents. Which is a LEGITIMATE AND LEGAL thing to do.

So all total, there have been 20 American adults picked up in ICE raids on illegals. Pretty miniscule. And under the circumstances understandable.