Trump's reputation will age like fine wine

[ThatRobGuy]

You mean the people that worked with him, worked for him and had a better understanding and first hand knowledge of Trumps character?

Yeah. Those people.

But they're terrible people... getting bad people to criticize other bad people doesn't give criticisms any legitimacy.


The members of the Outlaws MC hate the members of Hells Angels MC.

Their criticisms, accusations, etc... should be given the merit they deserve, which is very little.

If I were constructing a critical narrative about the Hells Angels, I wouldn't be using the viewpoints of Outlaws members, or former HA members that got kicked out "in bad standing", to bolster my case.


It's pretty much "low hanging fruit" to go after someone based on the statements of the people they fired.


If my boss fires me tomorrow at 4:45pm, by 5:00pm, I'll be ready to air out all the dirty laundry lol.

 

[Yttrium]

But they're terrible people... getting bad people to criticize other bad people doesn't give criticisms any legitimacy.

I'm reminded of villains in DC Comics distancing themselves from the Joker. They may be bad, but the Joker is that much worse. Even bad people can have standards, reasonable lines that they won't cross. And when they point to someone who crosses even those lines, it's best to pay attention.

Besides, bad people can have their good sides. I can designate George Washington as a bad person because he owned slaves. Still, he did a solid job as the first president and set the standard for presidents that followed. I'm not going to throw out everything the guy did because of some bad behavior. I'm not going to dismiss things Obama said because he blew up some innocent people with drones. Bolton is low on my list of political figures due to his thirst for war, but he can still make some good points.

 

[Bradskii]

Their criticisms, accusations, etc... should be given the merit they deserve, which is very little.

If their opinions came as a surprise and they had reasons to lie then I'd be suspicious. But they are confirming everything that we can see ourselves.

In which case what they says is not the only evidence against him. It's further confirmation of what we already know.

 

[Hans Blaster]

But they're terrible people... getting bad people to criticize other bad people doesn't give criticisms any legitimacy.

Purity tests are dumb. Nobody is "pure", politically or morally. If you insist on only pure witnesses or accusers, then you will have none. (Including none to witness against the bad witnesses.) With any "witness" (good or evil) an evaluation of what their motivations are, what they could possibly know, etc., is part of understanding their testimony. One can live by a code of ethics and honor and be a war monger, just as one can live a life in service and be jealous of the recognition given to others.

 

[eclipsenow]

Trump's reputation will include his criminal record, his blatant racist dog-whistling, his Dunning Krueger's, his Narcissistic Personality Disorder - and now his grifting of the American people!

From our ABC.

"Conflict of interest" does not even begin to describe it!
Couple this doco with the BBB and you really do have "Democracy of the billionaires, by the billionaires, for the billionaires."

And the sad thing is because Trump dog-whistled all the 'right' things to the working class and rust belt - and offered up "THOSE IMMIGRANTS" and those factories "In CHINA" to the working class as simplistic scapegoats to their problems and HE was the strong man to deal with them - people voted for him. People trusted him. But his NPD means he does not really even see them as people!

Also - constant unnecessary lying.

Trump appointed the head of the Federal Reserve in 2018.

When he had his spat about him this year, he said to the gathered reporters "I think he does a terrible job - he's costing us a lot of money. He's a terrible Fed Chair - I was surprised he was appointed - I was surprised quite frankly that BIDEN put him in and extended him!"

Watch his face as he says this.

Does he know he's lying? When he leans forward and his voice raises like he's telling a story to school children - is that him knowingly lying - or is that dementia?

It's hard to tell these days.