‘If we ever had a leak of this chat we would be cooked’: 7 months of shocking private messages among rising GOP leaders

[eclipsenow]

This definitely looks like a job for Snopes.

Ah so you'll acknowledge Snopes here when useful - but what if I were to use it in the climate thread?

 

[Paulos23]

There is already some backlash in Kansas, from the state GOP.

Kansas Young Republicans group now inactive after racist chat messages get exposed

Kansas GOP leaders have condemned offensive messages sent in a national Young Republicans group chat. They said the group is now inactive

www.kcur.org

 

[Say it aint so]

Link to the article: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/...nes&nrid=1c7a71dc-acdc-448a-a025-52b0d02343e1

Oops. Thanks for doing what I neglected.

 

[Say it aint so]

Hello @Say it aint so, before condemning anyone of anything,

1) the facts need to be established (for instance, is any of this, some of it, or all of it actually true, and if it is, even in part, who, of the reported 12 participants* in these 2900 pages of text messages**, said what) and​

2) the truth needs to be established (by reading/understanding the quotes in context, so that what was truly meant by each of the offensive-sounding texts can be discerned .. as other CF members above have already mentioned).​

These were my immediate thoughts when I heard the news about Jay Jones' recent texts (quite frankly, I still can't believe that he said what he did, but especially, that he meant what he said, however, since he has apologized and asked to be forgiven for making them, the fact that he both made them and meant them is old news now).

We'll have to wait and see, of course, but I hope that the facts and the truth bear out a very different story (from Jay Jones') with this new batch of text messages from this group of 12.

--David
p.s. - the following is an excerpt from the Politico article (thanks for posting the link to the article for us, @Paulos23)

The 2,900 pages of chats**, shared among a dozen* millennial and Gen Z Republicans between early January and mid-August, chronicle their campaign to seize control of the national Young Republican organization on a hardline pro-Donald Trump platform. Many of the chat members already work inside government or party politics, and one serves as a state senator.​

I think we can make this official.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Ah so you'll acknowledge Snopes here when useful - but what if I were to use it in the climate thread?

I think the point that is being made is how liberals only find fact checkers useful1 when it benefits them. I personally think Snopes is biased and full of cow farts.

 

[Say it aint so]

Yada yada free speech, right? Right? I mean, leftists can celebrate a man's murder, talk about wanting kids dead because their parents are conservative, and the left back their own. But oh, but NOW it's terrible and we should do something about this kind of thing. No one cares about jokes anymore, unless it's a Republican making them. Utter hypocrisy.

These are just your yahoos on social media. These are up coming young Republicans party members. There were no Democrat party officials either young or old celebrating Kirk's death. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. So yes, who is making the comments does matter.

 

[NxNW]

Yada yada free speech, right? Right? I mean, leftists can celebrate a man's murder, talk about wanting kids dead because their parents are conservative

This type of talk is the exception for Democrats. Typically it's outliers as private individuals.

As we can see, it's standard for Republicans when speaking as party members.

No one cares about jokes anymore, unless it's a Republican making them. Utter hypocrisy.

Your attempts to defend the indefensible are indefensible.

 

[NxNW]

I've never even heard of any of those people in that chat.

Your ignorance is not the flex you think it is.

 

[NxNW]

I think the point that is being made is how liberals only find fact checkers useful1 when it benefits them. I personally think Snopes is biased and full of cow farts.

Snopes provides reference links so you can verify yourself.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I've never even heard of any of those people in that chat.

You’ll be voting for them soon enough.

 

[ralliann]

I'm a leftist - and I disagreed with 95% of the political junk Charlie Kirk talked about.
But I'm also a Christian, and I was horrified by his murder - and felt sick.
I did NOT celebrate as some might have!
I have publicly called for all 'leftists' of whatever stripe (Communist, Socialist, Social-Market, Social-Liberal, Ordo-Liberal....) to recognise that Charlie Kirk's murder was horrific and unjustified.

As Bernie Sanders said, COWARDS resort to violence because they are not convinced they have enough good arguments to defeat their opponents through speech.

Also, Bernie listed ALL the big political assassinations of the last few decades and condemned them all - whatever side of politics the victim came from.

Trump has said he didn't know about that Democrat and her husband that were assassinated.
MAGA only seems to condemn the assassinations of the Kirks, not the Hortmans.

As with your post. Where did YOU condemn the attitudes above?
Utter hypocrisy.

Who knew who they were? Nobody was calling them facists, Nazi's, ETC. That is the point...BIG DIFFERENCE.

 

[NxNW]

You’ll be voting for them soon enough.

Hey, it's just locker room talk!

 

[eclipsenow]

Who knew who they were? Nobody was calling them facists, Nazi's, ETC. That is the point...BIG DIFFERENCE.

Huh? Not sure how that comment answers anything I said

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

Hey, it's just locker room talk!

A man brags about sexual assaulting women. Sadly, for some reason it's just locker room talk. And this becomes president. It doesn't make sense.

 

[Vambram]

You’ll be voting for them soon enough.

Nope

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Nope

Why not? I’ve heard just as bad come out of Trump’s mouth and you all had no problem voting for him. Twice. You can’t convince me these aren’t views shared by many republicans these days even if you won’t admit it publicly.

 

[JosephZ]

"Kids do stupid things, especially young boys... That’s what kids do." -- JD Vance

The kids

 

[Belk]

Why not? I’ve heard just as bad come out of Trump’s mouth and you all had no problem voting for him. Twice. You can’t convince me these aren’t views shared by many republicans these days even if you won’t admit it publicly.

Three times.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Three times.

Thank you, yes.

And we’re still waiting to see if they’ll vote for him a fourth time.

 

[Vambram]

"Kids do stupid things, especially young boys... That’s what kids do." -- JD Vance

The kids

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All are people whom I've never heard of and I won't vote for them.