Trump sparks concern among Christians for saying he's 'maybe not Heaven-bound'

[Michie]

'Heartbreaking, if he means it'

President Donald Trump prompted concern among some of his Christian supporters for comments he made over the weekend, suggesting he doesn't believe he's going to Heaven.

"I don't think there's anything going to get me in Heaven," Trump told reporters on Air Force One on Sunday on his way to Israel to sign a peace deal ending the war in Gaza. "I think I'm maybe not Heaven-bound. I may be in Heaven right now as we fly in Air Force One. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make Heaven."

Trump was responding to a question that asked if brokering peace in the Middle East could help him "get into Heaven," which was a reference to comments he made in August that prompted a flurry of theological debate when he appeared to claim that ending the Russia-Ukraine war could help determine his eternal state.

"I want to try and get to Heaven if possible," Trump told "Fox & Friends" on Aug. 19. "I'm hearing I'm not doing well. I hear I'm really at the bottom of the totem pole."

"But if I can get to Heaven, this will be one of the reasons," he added about peace in Ukraine at the time.

Continued below.

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[Pepperdoodle]

Trump sparks concern among Christians for saying he's 'maybe not Heaven-bound'

Only God knows for sure, but I've never thought Trump was a Christian.
Could he be religious, sure.
Christians shouldn't be alarmed, but should pray for his salvation as with all of the lost.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

The first decade of the faith for me was pretty shallow.

This recurring theme of a conscience is encouraging.

Trump has said things that have really angered me in the past, I forgive him.

 

[Clare73]

'Heartbreaking, if he means it'

President Donald Trump prompted concern among some of his Christian supporters for comments he made over the weekend, suggesting he doesn't believe he's going to Heaven.

"I don't think there's anything going to get me in Heaven," Trump told reporters on Air Force One on Sunday on his way to Israel to sign a peace deal ending the war in Gaza. "I think I'm maybe not Heaven-bound. I may be in Heaven right now as we fly in Air Force One. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make Heaven."

Trump was responding to a question that asked if brokering peace in the Middle East could help him "get into Heaven," which was a reference to comments he made in August that prompted a flurry of theological debate when he appeared to claim that ending the Russia-Ukraine war could help determine his eternal state.

"I want to try and get to Heaven if possible," Trump told "Fox & Friends" on Aug. 19. "I'm hearing I'm not doing well. I hear I'm really at the bottom of the totem pole."

"But if I can get to Heaven, this will be one of the reasons," he added about peace in Ukraine at the time.

Continued below.

‘Day of unspeakable joy’: Evangelical leaders react to release of Israeli hostages by Hamas

Evangelical Christian leaders are celebrating the release of Israeli hostages held by Hamas, with one warning that Christians shouldn t be deceived into believing that peace will endure

www.christianpost.com

He doesn't have a full understanding of salvation and heaven, he has pieces but probably doesn't have time to give it much thought and sort it out.

That all can come another day.

 

[RileyG]

I will keep President Trump in my daily prayers and that is my only comment.

 

[chevyontheriver]

'Heartbreaking, if he means it'

President Donald Trump prompted concern among some of his Christian supporters for comments he made over the weekend, suggesting he doesn't believe he's going to Heaven.

"I don't think there's anything going to get me in Heaven," Trump told reporters on Air Force One on Sunday on his way to Israel to sign a peace deal ending the war in Gaza. "I think I'm maybe not Heaven-bound. I may be in Heaven right now as we fly in Air Force One. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make Heaven."

Trump was responding to a question that asked if brokering peace in the Middle East could help him "get into Heaven," which was a reference to comments he made in August that prompted a flurry of theological debate when he appeared to claim that ending the Russia-Ukraine war could help determine his eternal state.

"I want to try and get to Heaven if possible," Trump told "Fox & Friends" on Aug. 19. "I'm hearing I'm not doing well. I hear I'm really at the bottom of the totem pole."

"But if I can get to Heaven, this will be one of the reasons," he added about peace in Ukraine at the time.

Continued below.

‘Day of unspeakable joy’: Evangelical leaders react to release of Israeli hostages by Hamas

Evangelical Christian leaders are celebrating the release of Israeli hostages held by Hamas, with one warning that Christians shouldn t be deceived into believing that peace will endure

www.christianpost.com

The good thing is he has a clue that he needs redemption. The bad is that he thinks maybe he can earn it. There is some hope for him. Far more than the folks who think they have it made in the shade.

 

[RileyG]

The good thing is he has a clue that he needs redemption. The bad is that he thinks maybe he can earn it. There is some hope for him. Far more than the folks who think they have it made in the shade.

It makes me wonder how well versed he was in his former Presbyterianism/Reformed theologies. Was he aware of TULIP or other Calvinist doctrines? Really makes me wonder.

 

[Michie]

It makes me wonder how well versed he was in his former Presbyterianism/Reformed theologies. Was he aware of TULIP or other Calvinist doctrines? Really makes me wonder.

I think you’d be surprised of how many Christians and regular Churchgoers are pretty clueless when it comes to what their own Churches teach and believe. Let alone new Christians.

 

[RileyG]

I think you’d be surprised of how many Christians and regular Churchgoers are pretty clueless when it comes to what their own Churches teach and believe. Let alone new Christians.

Oh no, I'm not surprised at all. Many, many Catholics don't know what the Church teaches. It's sad, really.

 

[Michie]

Oh no, I'm not surprised at all. Many, many Catholics don't know what the Church teaches. It's sad, really.

Same goes for many other Christians outside Catholicism.

 

[Pepperdoodle]

I will keep President Trump in my daily prayers and that is my only comment.

What denomination, if any, are you?
I see you mentioning various ones when talking about certain things, so I'm curious which, if any, you are.

 

[RileyG]

What denomination, if any, are you?
I see you mentioning various ones when talking about certain things, so I'm curious which, if any, you are.

I am a faithful Catholic and will always remain so.

 

[RileyG]

Same goes for many other Christians outside Catholicism.

Yup! Absolutely correct!

 

[chevyontheriver]

It makes me wonder how well versed he was in his former Presbyterianism/Reformed theologies. Was he aware of TULIP or other Calvinist doctrines? Really makes me wonder.

I think he was clueless back then and is relatively clueless now too. At least he is not bragging about how holy he is. Which is why there may be real hope for him. He needs someone to pull him aside and explain it to him.

 

[chevyontheriver]

What denomination, if any, are you?

And you?

 

[Pepperdoodle]

I am a faithful Catholic and will always remain so.

Ok, thanks for answering

 

[Pepperdoodle]

And you?

Non-denominational.

Yourself?

 

[Michie]

Ok, thanks for answering

Do you go to a particular Church?

ETA: Beat me to it!

 

[chevyontheriver]

Non-denominational.

Yourself?

Catholic.

Most of us who often post in 'One Bread One Body' are Catholic. Others are indeed welcome there but we draw the line when they start telling us what we should believe when posting in OBOB. Say, for example, about how there is no hell in their opinion. We follow Catholic teaching in OBOB and we aren't providing a platform for people who are challenging that. There are rules within Christian Forums where Baptists or Adventists or Catholics are able to regulate comments so they can have a safe haven from being attacked by the ever so common attackers. It’s a safe haven thing in those specific fora.

By all means feel free to hang out in OBOB. We would be happy to have you. But don't be shocked when we bring up that there are limits to what can be said in that particular forum, including someone attempting to deny that there is a real place called hell, which of course Jesus spent a lot of time talking about. There are plenty of very anti-Catholic people in Christian forums, but they can't post their warez in OBOB. They manage to find ways to post such things in other parts of Christian Forums, such as this forum though. Extreme disrespect for other kinds of Christians is generally frowned upon and will often result in a thread being closed. Not that any of this applies directly to you. Nor does it actually apply to anyone in this particular thread.

Anyhow, I mistakenly wrote this post thinking we were having a conversation within OBOB. At least I don’t pretend at all to be perfect.

 

[RileyG]

Ok, thanks for answering

You're welcome