Another look at the moon landing.

[David Lamb]

And like I said, astronauts can only fly in low earth orbit.

That's not a fact. It's just your interpretation of the bible word "firmament." The word translated "firmament" can mean an expanse. It doesn't necessarily mean a solid dome.

 

[David Lamb]

This is not what the Bible says. The 7 stars are wandering & are the fallen angels who did not keep their first estate.

King James Bible
Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

King James Bible
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.



So Saturn is 800 million miles away, how to you get to this figure ?

The verse you quoted from Jude needs to be taken in context. Here it is together with the previous verse:

“12 These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; 13 raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.” (Jude 1:12-13 NKJV)

Spots in love feasts, clouds without water, twice dead trees, and wandering stars are all picture language. Besides, it says "while they feast with you" which suggests that Jude is referring back to the certain men who had crept in unawares that he mentioned in verse 4.

 

[David Lamb]

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Not sure what you mean by "if space rockets are wrong'. Space rockets just simply are launched up and into the sky where they fly for 100"s to 1000's of miles then come back down or crash back down.

What I was referring to was the fact that Apple Sky had said something about it being wrong for man to go up in a space rocket.

 

[Apple Sky]

They were not on the dark side of the moon, but on the side facing the sun.

Michael Collins who was orbiting the moon should have seen the stars but as Patrick More asked him at the conference 'did you see the stars' Collins answered 'I don't remember seeing any stars.'

 

[David Lamb]

The word 'planet' comes from the Greek word planetes, meaning 'wanderer'

The online Etymological Dictionary says:

"from Greek planētēs, from (asteres) planētai "wandering (stars),"

 

[Apple Sky]

Evidence? Just saying that MSM is full of fairy tales is a baseless statement. Besides, the moon landings, especially the first one in 1969, were broadcast not only by MSM, but by broadcasters all around the world, including the BBC.

And it was the biggest lie of all time.

 

[David Lamb]

But your not beating me your beating God's word.

But God's word does not say, "You must not go to the moon," or if it does, I must have missed the verse that says that.

 

[David Lamb]

You should try reading the book of Enoch, he tells it all.

But the book of Enoch isn't in the bible.

 

[David Lamb]

Well there's nothing in scripture about the earth being a ball.

There is nothing in the bible that tells us what shape the earth is.

 

[David Lamb]

Where in scripture does it mention the earth being a ball ?

Nowhere, and nowhere in Scripture does it mention the earth being a flat disc. (And pleased don't quote the verse from Isaiah that mentions God sitting above the circle/circuit of the earth, because that verse does not say that the earth is a circular disc.)

 

[Apple Sky]

But God's word does not say, "You must not go to the moon," or if it does, I must have missed the verse that says that.

No but the Bible does say there is a firmament above with water above it.

As above so below.

 

[David Lamb]

Michael Collins who was orbiting the moon should have seen the stars but as Patrick More asked him at the conference 'did you see the stars' Collins answered 'I don't remember seeing any stars.'

'I don't remember seeing any stars.' doesn't men that he didn't see any. Also, his attention was probably elsewhere - (I'm guessing here): keeping in contact with Houston and with his fellow astronauts on the surface, watching the instruments on board, etc.

 

[Apple Sky]

Nowhere, and nowhere in Scripture does it mention the earth being a flat disc.

No but the Scriptures do imply this.

 

[David Lamb]

And it was the biggest lie of all time.

Again, you have made a statement that all the world's broadcasters and newspapers were lying about the moon landing, with nothing to support the statement.

 

[Apple Sky]

'I don't remember seeing any stars.' doesn't men that he didn't see any. Also, his attention was probably elsewhere - (I'm guessing here): keeping in contact with Houston and with his fellow astronauts on the surface, watching the instruments on board, etc.

Don't make me laugh, he's in space orbiting the moon and your telling me that his attention would be else where ?

 

[Strong in Him]

Earth is not a planet it is a plain with the sun circulating the sky

It's a plain, what?

And Copernicus, they were all fairy tale tellers too. The only genuine ancient astronomer I know of was Enoch who walked with God.

Everyone who is actually highly qualified and knows what they are talking about but who disagrees with your beliefs, is "telling fairy tales" as far as you are concerned.

How do you know Enoch was an astronomer?

 

[Apple Sky]

Again, you have made a statement that all the world's broadcasters and newspapers were lying about the moon landing, with nothing to support the statement.

I haven't, because the big colossal TV stations & news papers got there first to make sure they had brainwashed the whole wide world.

 

[Strong in Him]

I was hoping you'd mention someone from the Bible.

The Magi who visited Jesus were astronomers.

 

[Apple Sky]

Everyone who is actually highly qualified and knows what they are talking about but who disagrees with your beliefs, is "telling fairy tales"

Yes & fooling the whole wide world.

 

[Strong in Him]

I haven't, because the big colossal TV stations & news papers got there first to make sure they had brainwashed the whole wide world.

Of course they did.
World leaders - even those who hate each other - scientists, engineers, astronomers and the media all had coffee together to try to come up with a lie which would fool, and brainwash, other people.
I doubt they've even be able to agree on what type of coffee to drink.

And you think other people tell fairy tales.