Letita Jamews indicted for fraud

[A2SG]

Imagine that...saying Trump was guilty BEFORE there was even a trial and she was going to get HIM specifically!

What was wrong with that? She's entitled to her opinion, same as everyone else, and she has the right to voice that opinion, same as everyone else. She was running to be elected as a prosecutor, of course she was going to pledge she'd prosecute criminals.

Thing is, though, when it came time to actually prosecute Trump, she didn't just utter her opinion in court and call it a day. She provided EVIDENCE. And that EVIDENCE was sufficient to prove Trump was guilty.

It remains to be seen if Trump's DOJ has the same preponderance of evidence against James as she had against Trump, though. From what I've read, it doesn't seem like it, but it's always possible there's more evidence than we currently know about. Stranger things have happened.

-- A2SG, never imagined a president would so blatantly use the DOJ to go after those he has a personal grudge against, but here we are.....

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

What was wrong with that? She's entitled to her opinion, same as everyone else, and she has the right to voice that opinion, same as everyone else. She was running to be elected as a prosecutor, of course she was going to pledge she'd prosecute criminals.

-- A2SG, never imagined a president would so blatantly use the DOJ to go after those he has a personal grudge against, but here we are.....

Not when you are running for public office! I guess you are OK with what Jones said in VA then? She did not say criminals, she said she was going to get Trump. She SPECIFICALLY named Trump, Trump wasn't a criminal when she said it. So it is just fine when Biden's DOJ, liberal judges and prosecutors do it but not republicans...typical

 

[A2SG]

Not when you are running for public office!

Why not? Are political candidates not protected by the first amendment, same as everyone else?

I guess you are OK with what Jones said in VA then? She did not say criminals, she said she was going to get Trump. She SPECIFICALLY named Trump, Trump wasn't a criminal when she said it.

True...but she believed he was, and said so. Again, freedom of speech. Now, it's entirely possible she had evidence of his guilt back then, so we cannot say for sure how much she knew about his financial shenanigans at that point, but regardless...she was running to prosecute criminals, and she promised to get someone she believed was a criminal. Even if she'd been incorrect on that assessment (she wasn't), she still had every right to voice her opinion.

So it is just fine when Biden's DOJ, liberal judges and prosecutors do it but not republicans...typical

When have I ever said anyone, in the DOJ or not, isn't free to voice their own opinion? If you're gonna accuse me of something, please check and make sure it's something I've actually done, mmkay?

-- A2SG, not gonna accept responsibility for stuff you've made up.....

 

[RocksInMyHead]

The lie and mortgage fraud is in the forms she herself filled out.

As far as I'm aware, there was an error on one of her forms. That's not disputed by anyone.

Calling it a lie or fraud necessitates that the error be intentional, and that is what the government must prove.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Some context from another thread.

Trump poised to fire US attorney for resisting effort to charge NY AG: Sources

President Donald Trump is expected to fire the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia after his office was unable to find incriminating evidence of mortgage fraud against New York Attorney General Letitia James, according to sources.
Trump nominated Siebert for the position in May.

How can this not be seen as naked retribution? Your own handpicked guy says there's nothing there. That's not good enough, so you keep firing people until you get Letitia James indicted.

Trump nominates White House aide to be top US prosecutor for office probing Letitia James​

Halligan has been part of Trump’s legal orbit for the last several years, including serving as one of his attorneys in the early days of the FBI’s investigation into Trump’s retention of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

[recently involved in purging the Smithsonian of wrongthink]

Top prosecutor is rejecting Trump pressure to charge New York AG​

A key federal prosecutor in Virginia, where James Comey was indicted, is resisting bringing charges against Letitia James.

Elizabeth Yusi, who oversees major criminal prosecutions in the Norfolk office of the Eastern District of Virginia, has confided to co-workers that she sees no probable cause to believe James engaged in mortgage fraud, the two sources told MSNBC. Yusi plans to present her conclusion to the president’s new interim U.S. attorney, Lindsey Halligan, in the coming weeks, they said.

But Lindsay Halligan has but one brief - Do what the Boss says.

 

[Servus]

Chickens coming home to roost.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Chickens coming home to roost.

It remains to be seen where they actually land though.

 

[Say it aint so]

The gang who can't shoot straight. As much as Trump tries to be a Mafia boss, he's just bad at it.
No Mafia boss would ever announce their intentions by accidentally sending a message meant to be private, in public.

Comey, Tish James, and Abrego Garcia will have these cases thrown out faster than the Trump lawsuit against the NYTimes.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Pam Bondi, DOJ officials caught off guard by Tish James indictment: Sources​

Sources said that Tish James' indictment for alleged fraud came as a surprise.

As ABC News previously reported, Martin and Bill Pulte, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, who initially made the criminal referral to DOJ over James’ mortgage applications, have in recent weeks clashed with senior leadership of the department as they’ve demanded more aggressive actions to prosecute President Trump's political enemies.

One former senior DOJ official said it would be extraordinary for leadership at the department to not be informed of a pending indictment of a major political figure like James, which would more typically be led by the department’s Public Integrity Section. Staff in that office has been eliminated to just two officials down from roughly 30 since Trump’s inauguration, according to sources.

Trump apparently has very little need for people to keep an eye on public integrity.

 

[Say it aint so]

Pam Bondi, DOJ officials caught off guard by Tish James indictment: Sources​

Sources said that Tish James' indictment for alleged fraud came as a surprise.

As ABC News previously reported, Martin and Bill Pulte, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, who initially made the criminal referral to DOJ over James’ mortgage applications, have in recent weeks clashed with senior leadership of the department as they’ve demanded more aggressive actions to prosecute President Trump's political enemies.

One former senior DOJ official said it would be extraordinary for leadership at the department to not be informed of a pending indictment of a major political figure like James, which would more typically be led by the department’s Public Integrity Section. Staff in that office has been eliminated to just two officials down from roughly 30 since Trump’s inauguration, according to sources.

Trump apparently has very little need for people to keep an eye on public integrity.

Kind of like back when he was marking "C" for "colored" on rental applications and then throwing them in the trash.
They mark nominees with a "I" for any semblance of integrity during vetting.
Those with found with integrity go into the trash can.

 

[DaisyDay]

The charges were brought by the DOJ. A Grand Jury of her peers brought the indictment.

On Trump's orders by the newly appointed US Attorney Linsey Halligan who has zero prosecutorial experience.

People with ‘sterling character’ don’t lie on mortgage applications.

Nor did she lie. Out of all the papers submitted to the mortgage company, Halligan found one check box mischecked by James' niece who had power of attorney to fill out a few papers.

This is another vindictive prosecution by our highly vindictive president. This is s shameful act on the government's part.

 

[DaisyDay]

Wasn't it Latitia James who went after Trump for what she called a financial fraud which turned out to be more of a paperwork error?

No, it wasn't a paperwork error. It was a deliberate overestimation of the value of properties when applying for loans with a deliberate underestimation of the very same properties for tax write-offs.

Maybe she'll end up having to pay out the $100,000,000 she tried to get from him. That would be a fitting end to a woman who made it her campaign theme to go after Trump.

She promised to go after criminals such as DJT and fulfilled that promise. Trump's DOJ is retaliating on his behalf which is not something any government should do. This is vengeance and persecution from the highest office in our government. It is not only unlawful but and absolute disgrace to our country.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Looks like they got the wrong woman.

A cover sheet accompanying the five-page indictment, filed on October 9 in the Eastern District of Virginia, lists James’s address as “Brooklyn, New Jersey,” despite her well-known residence in Brooklyn, New York.

see also:

Problems identified in Halligan’s initial filings [on Comey], including duplicate case numbers and clerical errors such as misspellings in official documents that have been flagged on social media.

A widely shared post on X said she “doesn’t know the difference between a bedrock principle and a bedrock ‘principal’.”


Hey, I get it. it's just a few little errors in some paperwork, let's not make a federal case out of it!

 

[wing2000]

The gang who can't shoot straight. As much as Trump tries to be a Mafia boss, he's just bad at it.
No Mafia boss would ever announce their intentions by accidentally sending a message meant to be private, in public.

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Comey, Tish James, and Abrego Garcia will have these cases thrown out faster than the Trump lawsuit against the NYTimes.

More evidence for a "vindictive prosecution" defense...

 

[Aldebaran]

Ah, the return of Republican fanfiction...

Or good old Devine justice.