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Trump’s Name Chanted in Israel AND Gaza After Peace Deal: ‘Nobel Prize to Trump!’

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A Washington Post-Ipsos poll last month showed even about half of Republicans said Trump didn’t deserve one. Just 22% of Americans overall said that he did.

But on Wednesday a Trump Nobel suddenly became more plausible with the announcement of a phase-one ceasefire deal in Gaza.

Much remains to be ironed out, and time will tell how successful it is. The news also didn’t seem to arrive in time for this year’s prize announcement, which happens to be Friday.

But even some nonpartisan foreign policy experts and Trump critics are starting to take the possibility more seriously, albeit for next year.

“If the peace plan moves forward, Mr. Trump may have as legitimate a claim to that Nobel as the four American presidents who have won the peace prize in the past,” longtime New York Times national security reporter David Sanger wrote, “though with less bombast and lobbying.”

And it came after Trump took some remarkable steps. His administration has made a point to build relations with Middle Eastern leaders and make them a key part of the process. And perhaps most notably, Trump has exerted an unusual amount of pressure on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
 

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(CNN)
A Washington Post-Ipsos poll last month showed even about half of Republicans said Trump didn’t deserve one. Just 22% of Americans overall said that he did.

But on Wednesday a Trump Nobel suddenly became more plausible with the announcement of a phase-one ceasefire deal in Gaza.

Much remains to be ironed out, and time will tell how successful it is. The news also didn’t seem to arrive in time for this year’s prize announcement, which happens to be Friday.

But even some nonpartisan foreign policy experts and Trump critics are starting to take the possibility more seriously, albeit for next year.

“If the peace plan moves forward, Mr. Trump may have as legitimate a claim to that Nobel as the four American presidents who have won the peace prize in the past,” longtime New York Times national security reporter David Sanger wrote, “though with less bombast and lobbying.”

And it came after Trump took some remarkable steps. His administration has made a point to build relations with Middle Eastern leaders and make them a key part of the process. And perhaps most notably, Trump has exerted an unusual amount of pressure on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Trump is not getting the Nobel peace prize. I would be shocked if he did.
 
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(CNN)
A Washington Post-Ipsos poll last month showed even about half of Republicans said Trump didn’t deserve one. Just 22% of Americans overall said that he did.

But on Wednesday a Trump Nobel suddenly became more plausible with the announcement of a phase-one ceasefire deal in Gaza.

Much remains to be ironed out, and time will tell how successful it is. The news also didn’t seem to arrive in time for this year’s prize announcement, which happens to be Friday.

But even some nonpartisan foreign policy experts and Trump critics are starting to take the possibility more seriously, albeit for next year.

“If the peace plan moves forward, Mr. Trump may have as legitimate a claim to that Nobel as the four American presidents who have won the peace prize in the past,” longtime New York Times national security reporter David Sanger wrote, “though with less bombast and lobbying.”

And it came after Trump took some remarkable steps. His administration has made a point to build relations with Middle Eastern leaders and make them a key part of the process. And perhaps most notably, Trump has exerted an unusual amount of pressure on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
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"For what has a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul.....
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Trump is not getting the Nobel peace prize. I would be shocked if he did.

It sounds like the consensus is that it's too close to decision time for this year.

However, if by April, the Israel/Gaza situation and Russia/Ukraine situations are fizzled down,

That would mean
Abraham Accords
TRIPP deal
Israel/Gaza
Russia/Ukraine

...would all be feathers in his cap.

They may have no choice to begrudgingly do it.

They'd have to hedge their bets. As much as I'm sure the academia-minded committee would hate to do it, they probably understand that not doing it under those conditions (which are still hypothetical) would be seen as a political hatchet job given that people have won it for less impressive peacemaking efforts.

Let's be honest, the reason behind Obama getting one was rather vague and non-descript. That's not to pick on him, I was an Obama voter back in the day, but the rationale for giving him one was weak at best and focused heavily on intangibles.




It'll just be a matter of whether or not these peace agreements "stick".
 
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It sounds like the consensus is that it's too close to decision time for this year.

However, if by April, the Israel/Gaza situation and Russia/Ukraine situations are fizzled down,

That would mean
Abraham Accords
TRIPP deal
Israel/Gaza
Russia/Ukraine

...would all be feathers in his cap.

They may have no choice to begrudgingly do it.

They'd have to hedge their bets. As much as I'm sure the academia-minded committee would hate to do it, they probably understand that not doing it under those conditions (which are still hypothetical) would be seen as a political hatchet job given that people have won it for less impressive peacemaking efforts.

Let's be honest, the reason behind Obama getting one was rather vague and non-descript. That's not to pick on him, I was an Obama voter back in the day, but the rationale for giving him one was weak at best and focused heavily on intangibles.




It'll just be a matter of whether or not these peace agreements "stick".
I may sound pessimistic, but I think Hamas is just taking advantage of this opportunity to re-arm and regroup. I just hope they at least return the hostages before doing something extremely stupid.
 
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I may sound pessimistic, but I think Hamas is just taking advantage of this opportunity to re-arm and regroup. I just hope they at least return the hostages before doing something extremely stupid.
That's a valid concern, but as the articles noted, Trump made the move to incorporate other Arab nation leaders in the process for oversight of the agreement (including ones that have lucrative arrangements with us)

That has a way of potentially keeping certain bad actors in check.

Obviously, in a perfect world, people would want to do the right thing and encourage their neighbors and in-group members to not kill people, but obviously the world is messy and sometimes leveraging ulterior motives is the lesser of two evils.
 
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It sounds like the consensus is that it's too close to decision time for this year.
That's going to be your excuse for him not winning, is it? ^_^

Say nothing about him using military force against his own people, blowing up civilian boats, pardoning people who tried to overthrow democracy in his favour, his 'War Secretary' telling the military they can commit war crimes and numerous other not at all peaceful acts.

If the Nobel committee gives him the Peace Prize, it would be because they are afraid of him putting a price on their heads or invading their country.
 
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It's a good first step, though it took far longer than he claimed it would.

If a lasting peace would manifest out of this, it would certainly warrant praise. But for now, it's a glorified ceasefire like many before, and with no indication of hamas or israel changing the general direction of their policies.

We will see what the near future brings. When the people of Gaza get the help they need (without Hamas stealing it to create tools of war or sell it to them), and when the government of israel steps down from it's war footing, a nobel peace prize would be warranted. But I see neither the leadership of hamas, who got rich and powerful from this guerillia war, nor Netanyahu, who is with one foot in prison without permanent war, being to keen on that prospect.

And please, don't trot out the tired old line of "Trump could cure cancer and the left would decry him". He had a positive foreign policy success. Bully to him. Much like with the Covid-19 vaccine, I have no problem praising something I deem praiseworthy, even on someone I find many things to criticise about.
 
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Let's be honest, the reason behind Obama getting one was rather vague and non-descript. That's not to pick on him, I was an Obama voter back in the day, but the rationale for giving him one was weak at best and focused heavily on intangibles.
I think that prize was more based on the hopes of him doing peace stuff. His use of drone strikes put paid to that idea.

Not the only time the nobel peace prize comittee honored someone who turned out to not act in the spirit of the whole thing. Just look at Abiy Ahmed. And the nobel peace prize in 1994 was given to three politicians of israel and palestine for fostering peace. What an anticlimax, eh?
 
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It sounds like the consensus is that it's too close to decision time for this year.
It was decided last week. Just not announced yet.
 
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