Emergency abortion denials by Catholic hospitals put woman in danger, after her water broke at 17 weeks, lawsuit claims

[Hans Blaster]

I can only read the first part because of the pay firewall. No matter what the spin, people have a right to religious freedom.

The thread/article is about a person and a business. The person is not claiming anything about "religious freedom".

 

[Valletta]

The thread/article is about a person and a business. The person is not claiming anything about "religious freedom".

It's a Catholic hospital, I can read the headline in the L.A. Times article and see the words "Catholic hospitals."

 

[BCP1928]

And the temperatures rising. More Christian places are being attacked. The dems were always descriminating against Christian and conservative targets in their rhetoric and abuse of power.

Any little hiccup by good Christian organisation is blown up into the worst hoors. While they overseer millions or murders of innocents in the womb. What hypocrites. God will judge them in the end.

There are Christians and then there are Christians. For my part, I am a "Bible-hating, Christ-denying commie" (an Anglican) and an Anglican Priest who posts regularly here has had the validity of her faith, her denomination and her ordination openly denied. The Attorney General now has a committee of Evangelical Protestant clergy trying to find a legal way to deny the protections of the First Amendment to any but Evangleical Protestant Christians. The Democrats (many of whom are devout Christians themselves) aren't doing that.

 

[essentialsaltes]

It's a Catholic hospital, I can read the headline in the L.A. Times article and see the words "Catholic hospitals."

Shouldn't the hospital's liberty to swing its arm end where my death from sepsis begins?

 

[Hans Blaster]

It's a Catholic hospital, I can read the headline in the L.A. Times article and see the words "Catholic hospitals."

It is still a business offering a service for money.

 

[BCP1928]

It is still a business offering a service for money.

It doesn't even sound like a dispute over abortion per se but a dispute over the determination of fetal viability.

 

[Hans Blaster]

It doesn't even sound like a dispute over abortion per se but a dispute over the determination of fetal viability.

A 17-week fetus isn't viable. There is no medical debate on that. If a hospital can't "handle" when such a pregnancy fails, then they should get out of the: OB-GYN business and the emergency medicine business.

 

[Valletta]

It is still a business offering a service for money.

And it's still Catholic.

 

[Hans Blaster]

And it's still Catholic.

So?

 

[Valletta]

So?

Under our U.S. Constitution Catholics have the right to practice their religion without the government interfering.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Under our U.S. Constitution Catholics have the right to practice their religion without the government interfering.

A hospital is a business not a religion.

 

[bèlla]

Their responsibility as a medical provider supersedes religion in matters like this. She didn’t consent to risk her life because they didn’t agree with the procedure. They have a duty to uphold.

~bella

 

[RileyG]

This is an article about a woman with a dangerous medical condition.

Yes. Some other posters just went off a random, but somewhat related tangent….

 

[RileyG]

I care about everyone's religious freedom.

Amen, me too.

 

[Valletta]

Their responsibility as a medical provider supersedes religion in matters like this. She didn’t consent to risk her life because they didn’t agree with the procedure. They have a duty to uphold.

~bella

The state has no authority to supersede a doctor's right to practice his religion.

 

[johansen]

The state has no authority to supersede a doctor's right to practice his religion.

Medical care is not a religion

 

[Hans Blaster]

The state has no authority to supersede a doctor's right to practice his religion.

I did 20 years of Catholicism. Not once did the practice of medicine, law, building trades, accounting, science, engineering, motor vehicle and machinery operation, management, etc., ever come up during the practice of our religion. Likewise in 40 years of employment, never have I ever seen the practice of anyone's religion be part of the work we were doing -- not in a factory, not in a field, not in a classroom, not in the lab.

Not everything a person with a religion does is the "practice of their religion" and medicine certainly falls in that category. Physicians (and nurses and pharmacists, etc.) are all licensed by the state to practice that profession. Religion isn't even relevant to it.

 

[bèlla]

The state has no authority to supersede a doctor's right to practice his religion.

The state has a right to intervene if the doctor neglects their responsibilities in deference to their beliefs. If this is an issue for catholic institutions they shouldn’t receive government funding or be permitted to function in that capacity. Belief in God doesn’t give them the right to risk someone’s health.

~bella

 

[essentialsaltes]

The state has no authority to supersede a doctor's right to practice his religion.

We've been through this before. We have no idea what religion the doctors are. Even if that mattered.

 

[bèlla]

AI Overview

Catholic hospitals are primarily funded by Medicare and Medicaid reimbursements which constitute a large portion of their revenue, along with private insurance payments, patient fees, and donations. Some may also receive government grants, especially those operated by Catholic Charities. While historically tied to religious orders, many large Catholic health systems are now organized as independent non-profit networks, though some still have institutional ties or are supported by the Catholic Church's Vatican-based foundation.

~bella