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Trump sends troops to the 'warzone' of Portland...

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WASHINGTON – The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) today shared the violent criminal history of some of the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested in Portland last month. These criminals include pedophiles, murderers, sexual predators, and drug traffickers.

“Pedophiles, murderers, sexual predators, and drug traffickers. These are the heinous criminals Antifa domestic terrorists are trying to obstruct law enforcement from removing from our communities,” said Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin. “We are not allowing domestic terrorists to slow us down from removing the worst of the worst.
 
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It's not the only place they are and not yhe only place they have been violent. Heck we have leftist politicians talking about putting bullets in opponents brains and wishing their children are killed.
Never had right wingers be so offensive have we?


We have a LARGE amount of leftists who support political violence and assassinations.
And look how it's panning out.

Charlie Kirk Fan Vincent Battiloro Stalked and Brutally Murdered Two Girls After a Livestream Rant
his name can be found on many other news sites if this one doesn't pass muster.

So Im really wondering who should be considering leaving and why and who is really causing problems here.
In Portland, almost nobody, almost no where. No reason to send Americans against each other; Just because your president wants to.

It's shocking what folks are willing to make America look like.
 
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Never had right wingers be so offensive have we?
We've already had this discussion. Its leftist violence right now that is rhe problem. Right wing violence is down leftist violence is up.

That's not to say there have been ZERO incidents from the right.

ALL political violence is wrong no matter who does it. And that kid should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Its horrible and there is no excuse for it.

Please dont gaslight us though into trying to say its not the left doing most of it right now.

In Portland, almost nobody, almost no where. No reason to send Americans against each other; Just because your president wants to.

It's shocking what folks are willing to make America look like.
In Portland it's the left causing the problems there. There is no reason for them to be doing that. The president didn't send them there.

There are a LOT of People in that area causing problems and rhey have been doing it for over 100 days now.

I agree its not the entire city. But does it have to be? Do we need the entire city to be causing problems in order for it to be problematic?
 
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We've already had this discussion. Its leftist violence right now that is rhe problem. Right wing violence is down leftist violence is up.
There is no leftist violence to speak of.
In Portland it's the left causing the problems there. There is no reason for them to be doing that. The president didn't send them there.
Portland is peaceful. Protesters are dangling donuts in front of ICE for fun.

They call it ICE fishing.

Boy, what a violent scene.

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There is no leftist violence to speak of.

Portland is peaceful. Protesters are dangling donuts in front of ICE for fun.

They call it ICE fishing.

Boy, what a violent scene.

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That's the problem for many conservatives--deep down it's not the violence that bugs them, it's the disrespect.
 
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Ive been watching the live feeds feom Portland. For rhe most part during the day its really not too bad. Once in a while some do stupid things, but generally its not concerning. At night though it does get crazy. I've watched a lot of stuff and its not just people mingling around with some signs on the sidewalk.

I certainly support people being able to use their first Ammendment rights to march peacefully and have their voices heard. Even Noem said that during her visit. But stuff I've seen isn't just that. They are extremely confrontational and will throw things besides sandwiches and ive seen fireworks being shot etc.

I would think any reasonable person would say thats unacceptable. Even the sandwich thrower is unacceptable and should be arrested for it. In my mind, it's not a felony, but it is an assault and would be in my state becauae most assault laws do not require injury, but any contact rhat is insulting or provoking. Minimally it would be disorderly conduct.

But throwing hard objects or shooting fireworks at them is not protesting. Thats assault.

They are also committing other offenses that violate state and city laws, but the Portland police are not interested in charging anyone for breaking those laws. That is also not acceptable.
 
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There is no leftist violence to speak of.

Portland is peaceful. Protesters are dangling donuts in front of ICE for fun.

They call it ICE fishing.

Boy, what a violent scene.

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Thats a good one, but thats not ICE. And yes there is leftist violence. Don't try to gaslight us on that.

The city is peaceful. The area around the ICE facility is not. Especially at night.
 
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That's the problem for many conservatives--deep down it's not the violence that bugs them, it's the disrespect.
Actually its both that bothers us. Its the disrespect that often leads to violence.

In my view its wrong to disrespect the officers and agents who are just doing their jobs. Wrong doesn’t mean illegal. Those are two different things.

But it does say something about the moral character of those who are doing that. It shows poor character.
 
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Actually its both that bothers us. Its the disrespect that often leads to violence.

In my view its wrong to disrespect the officers and agents who are just doing their jobs. Wrong doesn’t mean illegal. Those are two different things.

But it does say something about the moral character of those who are doing that. It shows poor character.
They're not doing their jobs, their doing Trump's. But the only thing we can be required to give to those officers and agents is obdedience. Respect has to be earned. It shows poor moral character to give it away for free.
 
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They're not doing their jobs,
No, they are literally doing their job. Trump is asking them to do their job. Did you somehow believe that ICE isnt supposed to pick up illegals?
But the only thing we can be required to give to those officers and agents is obdedience.
Yes, never said otherwise.
Respect has to be earned. It shows poor moral character to give it away for free.
They have earned the respect doing their job. What people.are doing is showing disrespect BECAUSE they are doing their job. It shows very poor character to disrespect someone who is doing their job. The agents have earned the respect by doing what they are supposed to be doing. Just because you and others dont want them to do their job or don't like that they are doing certain aspects of their job, doesn't mean you should disrespect them. Its bad character.
 
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No, they are literally doing their job. Trump is asking them to do their job. Did you somehow believe that ICE isnt supposed to pick up illegals?
They never have done a very good job at it and have a poor reputation with local LEOs, But yes, that's their job. What Trump wants them to do is called trolling.
Yes, never said otherwise.

They have earned the respect doing their job. What people.are doing is showing disrespect BECAUSE they are doing their job. It shows very poor character to disrespect someone who is doing their job. The agents have earned the respect by doing what they are supposed to be doing. Just because you and others dont want them to do their job or don't like that they are doing certain aspects of their job, doesn't mean you should disrespect them. Its bad character.
I don't disrespect them, I just never respected them to start with.
 
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No, they are literally doing their job. Trump is asking them to do their job. Did you somehow believe that ICE isnt supposed to pick up illegals?
They're not supposed to attack US citizens, or shoot tear gas into press vehicles, or make fake 911 calls that waste resources and put citizens in danger. They're doing all these things, which has earned the scorn that's being thrown at them.
 
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Ive been watching the live feeds feom Portland. For rhe most part during the day its really not too bad. Once in a while some do stupid things, but generally its not concerning. At night though it does get crazy. I've watched a lot of stuff and its not just people mingling around with some signs on the sidewalk.
Yeah, really wild:
But throwing hard objects or shooting fireworks at them is not protesting. Thats assault.

They are also committing other offenses that violate state and city laws, but the Portland police are not interested in charging anyone for breaking those laws. That is also not acceptable.
Portland police are absolutely arresting people for assault:


 
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