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That’s why I said they didn’t start with gas chambers. Right now we’re in the scapegoat phase. Blame a group for our problems and try to get the public to turn against them as a whole. It’ll take a bit before people are more comfortable with more drastic solutions. You can say we’re not there yet but plenty of people who’ve lived it are seeing the parallels.
The article you posted said that the Jews who were “deported “ were rounded up and killed.
You’re using the slippery slope fallacy (that liberals love to point out)
 
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I’m not going to defend what Trump said, it’s indefensible but it doesn’t change the fact that people are being deported because they’re here illegally...
...and apparently poisoning the blood of your country. Hey, you'd think that the fact that they are here illegally could be justification in itself for proposing that some of them are deported. You really don't need any more justification than that. And I mean you personally. So who does? Who are those people that Trump is talking to when he uses language like that? Why does he think they need such comments?

You have to know that it doesn't reflect well on the US when there's someone in the WH using language like that. The rest of the world is like 'What? He said what?'

It's indefensible. And it's not a one off either, is it. It's par for the course.
 
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...and apparently poisoning the blood of your country. Hey, you'd think that the fact that they are here illegally could be justification in itself for proposing that some of them are deported. You really don't need any more justification than that. And I mean you personally. So who does? Who are those people that Trump is talking to when he uses language like that? Why does he think they need such comments?

You have to know that it doesn't reflect well on the US when there's someone in the WH using language like that. The rest of the world is like 'What? He said what?'

It's indefensible. And it's not a one off either, is it. It's par for the course.
I’m not here to defend everything Trump says, that’s a fool’s errand
 
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I’m not here to defend everything Trump says, that’s a fool’s errand
What Trump is saying is intimately related to what he’s doing. He’s expressing an idea we’ve heard before and not from a good source and when you combine that with what his administration is doing to people it starts to paint a very ugly picture. When you combine that with what others like Stephen Miller have expressed and when people see ICE agents acting with impunity and being accountable to no one and the underhanded tactics they’re using the picture really starts to look bad.


The worst part though, isn’t that we have a government doing these things. No. The worst part to me, is all the millions of Americans going along with it or providing cover and hand waving away any concerns like we see in this thread.
 
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What Trump is saying is intimately related to what he’s doing. He’s expressing an idea we’ve heard before and not from a good source and when you combine that with what his administration is doing to people it starts to paint a very ugly picture. When you combine that with what others like Stephen Miller have expressed and when people see ICE agents acting with impunity and being accountable to no one and the underhanded tactics they’re using the picture really starts to look bad.


The worst part though, isn’t that we have a government doing these things. No. The worst part to me, is all the millions of Americans going along with it or providing cover and hand waving away any concerns like we see in this thread.
This thread is about one law enforcement agency failing to help another one, what we’ve seen is providing cover for it, hand waving and justifying it
 
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I’m not defending that quote I’m saying you and @GoldenBoy89 are making light of what happened ito the Jews by comparing it to being deported
Before they were gassed, they were also imprisoned by separating families and causing chaos for children.

Maybe you are also making light of what is happenning to some of these immigrant children.
 
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I’m not here to defend everything Trump says, that’s a fool’s errand
I don't expect you to defend it. I'm pretty certain that you think that what he says is atrocious as I think it is.
 
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This thread is about one law enforcement agency failing to help another one, what we’ve seen is providing cover for it, hand waving and justifying it
Sure this thread is about one specific incident but the larger story around these deportations and more importantly, how ICE are conducting these operations has been brewing for several months now. You’ll notice early in this term there wasn’t quite as much pushback against ICE arrests as we’re seeing now after millions have witnessed for themselves what these agents are doing to people and how they’re going about it. This is a terror campaign where cruelty is the whole point and people aren’t taking it anymore.
 
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