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Border Patrol calls for help, Chicago PD does not respond

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If reports are true they are abusing their authority, but I also know how people exaggerate and lie about law enforcement actions so I am not so quick to condemn them
It's always been 'nazi gestapo harassing and kidnapping citizens'.
 
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So, the ends justify the means? Where is this ending? Are we changing any criminal hearts or creating havoc where more and more will not support the police? Perhaps we can be so extreme that civil war is coming? In my opinion the Federal government is overreaching. Using current laws with false pretenses and pushing the envelope. If the Feds would do their homework better they would not be making so many mistakes and causing so much turmoil. That there is an ICE quota makes it hard to do this. It is as Ben Franklin said, trading liberty for security brings neither.
There seems to be conflicting information on this account from last April:


 
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There seems to be conflicting information on this account from last April:


So the home was owned by an alleged human smuggler. So little less scrutiny. Might be wise to do some surveillance to see if he is there. In this case the couple renting it had only arrived two weeks ago. Still, the roughness they encountered was uncalled for. The point is that ICE and Trump are over-reaching and causing harm to US citizens. It might make good news for some but most are turned off from this. I despise all government overreach.
 
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The article only mentions the Border Patrol and believe it or not there are situations where law enforcement can be overwhelmed and have to call for assistance.
In this case they had to shoot a woman so I hope your post is not an attempt at humor
Percicly, one division. As I pointed out, there are many other divisions under Federal control that could have been called in to help with the situation. Boston made it very clear they would not participate in protecting Federal agents that are pursuing an unconstitutional agenda. Additionally, why was border patrol even involved? They belong on the border.

No joke . Homeland Security has no boundaries. No joke. The assault on the apartment building using drones, snipers and helicopters to raid the residents by breaking down doors, shattering windows and worse if all zip- tie half naked children is emblematic of the disgraceful actions endorsed and promoted by Kristi Noem. Shameful.
 
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Chicago PD confirmed that a border patrol agent requested assistance and they didn’t respond
ICE has been crying wolf. Here is a link to CBS News reporting that ICE agents in Broadview are making repeated unwarranted and false 911 calls to Broadview police.
 
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Percicly, one division. As I pointed out, there are many other divisions under Federal control that could have been called in to help with the situation. Boston made it very clear they would not participate in protecting Federal agents that are pursuing an unconstitutional agenda. Additionally, why was border patrol even involved? They belong on the border.

No joke . Homeland Security has no boundaries. No joke. The assault on the apartment building using drones, snipers and helicopters to raid the residents by breaking down doors, shattering windows and worse if all zip- tie half naked children is emblematic of the disgraceful actions endorsed and promoted by Kristi Noem. Shameful.
The incident I posted about was in Chicago
the U.S. Border Patrol makes arrests in areas far from the border itself, operating within a 100-mile "reasonable distance" from any international boundary or U.S. coastline.
 
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The incident I posted about was in Chicago
the U.S. Border Patrol makes arrests in areas far from the border itself, operating within a 100-mile "reasonable distance" from any international boundary or U.S. coastline.
Chicago is over 200 miles from the nearest border.
 
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Chicago is over 200 miles from the nearest border.
While Chicago isn't next to the border, it is sometimes considered in a "100-mile border zone" because the Great Lakes are included in that definition, allowing it to be near Canada's territorial waters.
 

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I can't believe that between ICE, Boarder Patrol, military, FBI and Homeland Security officers, they could not handle this situation. Rammed? Boxed in? Since when are these individuals so helpless?

Maybe a set up....who knows.
They're afraid somebody might throw a sandwich at them.
 
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The incident I posted about was in Chicago
the U.S. Border Patrol makes arrests in areas far from the border itself, operating within a 100-mile "reasonable distance" from any international boundary or U.S. coastline.
Contrary to the impressions from the south, no part of Illinois is close to Canada or an international border. Not one single drop of Lake Michigan is in Canada. It's the largest lake *in* the USA.
 
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If reports are true they are abusing their authority, but I also know how people exaggerate and lie about law enforcement actions so I am not so quick to condemn them
They are doing what Trump wants them to do. Do you think Trump cares, if laws are broken. Under his commands. He doesn't.
 
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Contrary to the impressions from the south, no part of Illinois is close to Canada or an international border. Not one single drop of Lake Michigan is in Canada. It's the largest lake *in* the USA.
While Chicago isn't next to the border, it is sometimes considered in a "100-mile border zone" because the Great Lakes are included in that definition, allowing it to be near Canada's territorial waters.
 
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While Chicago isn't next to the border, it is sometimes considered in a "100-mile border zone" because the Great Lakes are included in that definition, allowing it to be near Canada's territorial waters.
What about Portland or Los Angeles or DC or Baltimore or Philly?

Are all these cities near international borders?
 
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What about Portland or Los Angeles or DC or Baltimore or Philly?

Are all these cities near international borders?
ICE is not the Border Patrol. CBP is assisting ICE, I don’t know all the locations they’re involved with

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Yes, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), which includes Border Patrol, works with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), as they are both part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and are involved in enforcing U.S. immigration laws. While CBP focuses on security at and between ports of entry, ICE conducts interior enforcement, including investigations and removals. Collaboration between the agencies happens through various avenues, such as when Border Patrol assists ICE with interior enforcement efforts, leading to public protests and political tension in sanctuary cities.

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      Primarily responsible for border security, preventing unlawful entry, and enforcing immigration laws at the border and between ports of entry.
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      Both agencies operate under the Department of Homeland Security, allowing for coordinated efforts in immigration enforcement.
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      Border Patrol agents have been deployed to assist ICE with interior immigration enforcement operations, particularly in areas outside the immediate border region.
    • Information Sharing and Joint Operations:
      As part of the broader immigration enforcement framework, there are partnerships and information exchanges between CBP and ICE to achieve their respective mandates.
 
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While Chicago isn't next to the border, it is sometimes considered in a "100-mile border zone" because the Great Lakes are included in that definition, allowing it to be near Canada's territorial waters.
But I’m not wrong!
Okay
 
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But I’m not wrong!
Okay
It really doesn’t matter CBP can assist ICE anywhere in the US, see the previous post
  • Interior Enforcement Support:
    Border Patrol agents have been deployed to assist ICE with interior immigration enforcement operations, particularly in areas outside the immediate border region. (Notice @Maria Billingsley )
 
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While Chicago isn't next to the border, it is sometimes considered in a "100-mile border zone" because the Great Lakes are included in that definition, allowing it to be near Canada's territorial waters.
That is dumb geography. Lake Michigan is separated from any body of water shared with Canada by the Straits of Mackinac which is narrow enough that I have driven over it. There is a Coast Guard station just outside it at St. Ignace.
 
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That is dumb geography. Lake Michigan is separated from any body of water shared with Canada by the Straits of Mackinac which is narrow enough that I have driven over it. There is a Coast Guard station just outside it at St. Ignace.
It’s irrelevant. See post #34 and 36
 
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Fox News reviewed the computer-aided dispatch message sent to Chicago police officers by their chief of patrol. The message instructed officers not to respond to a Saturday morning ramming on the southwest side of the city in which an armed woman was shot and agents were boxed in and surrounded.

"PLEASE CHIEF OF PATROL NO UNITS WILL RESPOND TO THIS AS RELATED FROM 04-Oc5-2025/12:34:44…CALLER IS 1 OF APPROX 30 ARMED PATROL AGENTS (ICE) WHO ARE BEING SURROUNDED BY A LARGE CROWD OF PEOPLE REQUESTING CPD," the dispatch message read.

In a statement Sunday, the Chicago Police Department disputed claims that officers failed to respond, saying they were on scene to manage safety and document the incident.
But two senior Chicago police sources told Fox News the department’s statement was false — and that internal communications tell a very different story.

One ranking source told Fox News that the Chicago Police Department’s statement is "not true," pointing to "legit" dispatch audio.
 
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Chicago police records shared with the Sun-Times show that a Border Patrol agent had called for assistance, reporting that roughly 30 agents had been “surrounded by a large crowd of people.”
Maybe they were a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State. Gotta use that 2A sometime.
 
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