The Son of Man and the Throne Room

[Marilyn C]

What does that have to do with Jesus coming to earth? I thought you were questioning whether Jesus even returns to earth? Clearly, you're not admitting that he comes to the Mt. of Olives!

So now, your point seems to be that Jesus comes to the earth for Israel but takes the Body of Christ to heaven to be there? Please explain for me what you're trying to say in this regard?

I said quote : - Jesus will come to the Mount of Olives just as God`s word said - (Acts 1: 11 & Zech. 14: 4) And that is to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious. So please read more carefully.

Jesus comes for His Body prior to the trib, and after the trib, He will come (with His angelic army) to earth for a time to deliver Israel, judge the rebellious and then set up His kingdom rule through Israel, (as promised).

Then the Lord returns to His own seat of power and authority in the third heaven, given by the Father. (Ps. 2: 6 Eph. 1: 20- 22) It is from there he will rule over all God`s great kingdom.

 

[Douggg]

I said quote : - Jesus will come to the Mount of Olives just as God`s word said - (Acts 1: 11 & Zech. 14: 4) And that is to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious. So please read more carefully.

Jesus comes for His Body prior to the trib, and after the trib, He will come (with His angelic army) to earth for a time to deliver Israel, judge the rebellious and then set up His kingdom rule through Israel, (as promised).

Then the Lord returns to His own seat of power and authority in the third heaven, given by the Father. (Ps. 2: 6 Eph. 1: 20- 22) It is from there he will rule over all God`s great kingdom.

Hi Marilyn,

When Jesus returns to earth to stand on the Mt. of Olives, He will sit on King David's throne in Jerusalem for next thousand years.

Of course, that does not restrict Jesus to earth during that time. So, imo, Jesus will be going back and forth between Jerusalem here on earth and His Throne in the third heaven.

At the end of the thousand years, when Satan is loosed to deceive the nations again, it likely that Jesus will be in the third heaven at that time. Since while on earth, Jesus will rule the nations with a rod of iron to prevent any such rebellion.

 

[RandyPNW]

I said quote : - Jesus will come to the Mount of Olives just as God`s word said - (Acts 1: 11 & Zech. 14: 4) And that is to deliver Israel and bring vengeance upon the rebellious. So please read more carefully.

Jesus comes for His Body prior to the trib, and after the trib, He will come (with His angelic army) to earth for a time to deliver Israel, judge the rebellious and then set up His kingdom rule through Israel, (as promised).

Then the Lord returns to His own seat of power and authority in the third heaven, given by the Father. (Ps. 2: 6 Eph. 1: 20- 22) It is from there he will rule over all God`s great kingdom.

Sorry, Marilyn, I made a typo. I meant to say, "Clearly you're NOW admitting that he comes to the Mt. of Olives!

Thanks for the explanation that you are describing your belief in a dual stage Coming of Christ, once for the Church to heaven and again to come to earth at the Mt. of Olives.

 

[Marilyn C]

Hi Marilyn,

When Jesus returns to earth to stand on the Mt. of Olives, He will sit on King David's throne in Jerusalem for next thousand years.

Of course, that does not restrict Jesus to earth during that time. So, imo, Jesus will be going back and forth between Jerusalem here on earth and His Throne in the third heaven.

At the end of the thousand years, when Satan is loosed to deceive the nations again, it likely that Jesus will be in the third heaven at that time. Since while on earth, Jesus will rule the nations with a rod of iron to prevent any such rebellion.

Hi Douggg,

Well we nearly agree. Now had you remembered that Jesus will make a man called David as king over Israel in the millennium. (Ez. 37: 24 Jer. 30: 9)

 

[Douggg]

Hi Douggg,

Well we nearly agree. Now had you remembered that Jesus will make a man called David as king over Israel in the millennium. (Ez. 37: 24 Jer. 30: 9)

In Luke 1:31-33, an angel appeared to Mary and told her...

31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

 

[RandyPNW]

In Luke 1:31-33, an angel appeared to Mary and told her...

31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

I agree. Some Christians have gotten confused over use of the name "David." It was common, historically, for some royal lineages to use the same name for each king in succession related to the original. I suppose you could call, on some occasions, Hezekiah or Josiah "David." In reality, it just meant that they were kings in the line of David who reigned like David.

It might be similar to how prophecy applied the title "Elijah" to John the Baptist. He came in the ministerial, prophetic line of Elijah in terms of his greatness. But he was not a reincarnation of Elijah--just someone modeled after Elijah.

A king's use of a previous king's name may be the option of the king himself. He may want it to be known that he is carrying out the tradition of a previous king. In the case of "David," God wants it known that Messiah would be similar to David, in terms of fidelity to the truth and deference to God in all things. God wanted it also to be known that Messiah would be both a descendant of David and a king after his line of succession.

 

[Marilyn C]

In Luke 1:31-33, an angel appeared to Mary and told her...

31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Hi Douggg,

Good scripture there. And we see that it refers to Jesus as a man. However, we know that Jesus is also the Son of God. So, what does scripture say about that?

`I Jesus (in heaven) ....I am the ROOT and the OFFSPRING of David...` (Rev. 22: 16)

It was Jesus in the Godhead that made the very throne of David (as well as the 12 tribes etc). He is the ROOT, from where David`s throne came from. And then also we know that because Jesus was manifest as a man of the house of David of the Kingly line that He is King of the Jews.

So, in the millennium (as well as now) the Lord Jesus has the authority over the throne of David. Thus, because He rules from His seat of power and authority in the third heaven, He will appoint a regent king, named David to rule over Israel in the millennium.