Do you Agree with what Hillary says in this Video

[Maria Billingsley]

Well that's an odd twist on what I shared.

What denomination, if any, are you?

This is your quote:

In Romans 13:1–7 it makes it clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government.

I believe you may have created an odd twist yourself. The logic of Romans 13 does not demand submission when a governing authority commands something that directly contradicts God's law. Christians establish a clear hierarchy of allegiance. Why do you think so many were persecuted and put to death? Allegiance was with the Lord and not the government.
In Acts 5:29 the apostles were arrested and commanded by the Jewish ruling council (the Sanhedrin) to stop preaching the name of Jesus, Peter and the other apostles replied:
"We must obey God rather than men."

If you think treating our neighbors the way this administration is treating them is a righteous act then I am affraid we have a different understanding of His commandment to love .

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Michie]

• 1993 healthcare testimony: As first lady, Clinton testified on C-SPAN in favor of President Bill Clinton's healthcare proposal. During that testimony, she clarified that the plan did not include coverage for undocumented immigrants, but some opponents later mischaracterized her statements. A C-SPAN clip of this testimony has been misrepresented online to portray a different position.

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[Fantine]

There's public health centers and free clinics that are federally funded that will accept undocumented immigrants, so that's not true.

Free clinics are generally funded by charities in our hometown. And if you're talking about the state-run health departments, they give out vaccines and condoms and not much else.

 

[Delvianna]

Free clinics are generally funded by charities in our hometown. And if you're talking about the state-run health departments, they give out vaccines and condoms and not much else.

My husband came to America and went to a federal run health clinic in order to get medication and was only on a visa at the time (not a work visa and wasnt allowed to work). Granted that's not undocumented, but it's also not green card holder status either and he was given medical care and medication.

 

[Yarddog]

You're an expired end.

Says the person which cannot offer any proof to back up their false opinions.

 

[Pepperdoodle]

This is your quote:
In Romans 13:1–7 it makes it clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government.

I believe you may have created an odd twist yourself. The logic of Romans 13 does not demand submission when a governing authority commands something that directly contradicts God's law. Christians establish a clear hierarchy of allegiance. Why do you think so many were persecuted and put to death? Allegiance was with the Lord and not the government.
In Acts 5:29 the apostles were arrested and commanded by the Jewish ruling council (the Sanhedrin) to stop preaching the name of Jesus, Peter and the other apostles replied:
"We must obey God rather than men."
If you think treating our neighbors the way this administration is treating them is a righteous act then I am affraid we have a different understanding of His commandment to love .
Thanks for sharing.

No odd twist, you are taking what I shared out of context...
"In Romans 13:1–7 it makes it clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception is when a law forces us to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29)."
Then you say "The logic of Romans 13 does not demand submission when a governing authority commands something that directly contradicts God's law."
I said the only exception is when a law forces us to disobey a command of God.
Never said allegiance was with government, but God does expect us to obey those over us AS LONG AS what they say ISN'T against God and His word.
In Acts 5:29 the apostles were arrested for not stopping their preaching, that is perfectly inline with what I'm saying since that would be gov't overstepping their place and thus it is right in that to disregard their instructions.
You need to reread my original reply to you. Maybe there was some misunderstanding.
As to the neighbors point, that is also addressed in my original reply. It is not biblical to violate a law to achieve a possible “good.” Caring for the poor, orphans, and widows is something the Bible commands us to do, Gal 2:10; James 1:27; 2:2–15; however, that biblical mandate does not excuse lawbreaking.
The administration that has brought on any treatment of the illegal entrants is the Biben administrations fault.
THEY are the ones in the last 4 yrs that allowed millions in illegally.
The current administration is having to deal with what THAT administration did in illegally letting millions in.

Is there a reason you didn't answer the question about what, if any, denomination you are?

 

[Yarddog]

It's not false. You may not like it, but it's not false.

On doing God's will...
In Romans 13:1–7 it makes it clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception is when a law forces us to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29).
Illegal immigration breaks a government’s law. There is nothing in Scripture that contradicts the idea of a sovereign nation having immigration laws. Therefore, it is rebellion against God to unlawfully enter another country.

While it is true that it is illegal to enter America without permission, there are also laws which handle those that do. If they turn themselves in, they become protected by US law and must receive a hearing to see if they qualify to remain.

 

[Servus]

I don't have facebook, so I can't watch it

This YouTube video has the same content:

 

[Servus]

Fyi: undocumented immigrants have never gotten health benefits except in life threatening situations in the ER.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

No odd twist, you are taking what I shared out of context...
"In Romans 13:1–7 it makes it clear that God expects us to obey the laws of the government. The only exception is when a law forces us to disobey a command of God (Acts 5:29)."
Then you say "The logic of Romans 13 does not demand submission when a governing authority commands something that directly contradicts God's law."
I said the only exception is when a law forces us to disobey a command of God.
Never said allegiance was with government, but God does expect us to obey those over us AS LONG AS what they say ISN'T against God and His word.
In Acts 5:29 the apostles were arrested for not stopping their preaching, that is perfectly inline with what I'm saying since that would be gov't overstepping their place and thus it is right in that to disregard their instructions.
You need to reread my original reply to you. Maybe there was some misunderstanding.
As to the neighbors point, that is also addressed in my original reply. It is not biblical to violate a law to achieve a possible “good.” Caring for the poor, orphans, and widows is something the Bible commands us to do, Gal 2:10; James 1:27; 2:2–15; however, that biblical mandate does not excuse lawbreaking.
The administration that has brought on any treatment of the illegal entrants is the Biben administrations fault.
THEY are the ones in the last 4 yrs that allowed millions in illegally.
The current administration is having to deal with what THAT administration did in illegally letting millions in.

Is there a reason you didn't answer the question about what, if any, denomination you are?

Please consider the weightier matters of the law—justice, mercy, and faithfulness—in current immigration policy. Prioritizing the strict letter of the law regarding legal status over showing mercy to hard-working families and upholding justice for the vulnerable is seen as neglecting the heart of the law. This focus on minor technicality at the expense of human dignity constitutes the exact moral failure Jesus warned against.

 

[Servus]

Please consider the weightier matters of the law—justice, mercy, and faithfulness—in current immigration policy. Prioritizing the strict letter of the law regarding legal status over showing mercy to hard-working families and upholding justice for the vulnerable is seen as neglecting the heart of the law. This focus on minor technicality at the expense of human dignity constitutes the exact moral failure Jesus warned against.

The issue is the concern over people here illegally being given what our own poverty-stricken families need. It seems like we hear a whole lot of talk about the needs of refugee immigrants and illegal immigrants, compared to whether the needs of our own indigent families are being met.

 

[Pepperdoodle]

Please consider the weightier matters of the law—justice, mercy, and faithfulness—in current immigration policy. Prioritizing the strict letter of the law regarding legal status over showing mercy to hard-working families and upholding justice for the vulnerable is seen as neglecting the heart of the law. This focus on minor technicality at the expense of human dignity constitutes the exact moral failure Jesus warned against.

Servus is right and so are the Biblical principles I've already shared with you.

Is there a reason you don't want to answer the question about what, if any, denomination you are?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

The issue is the concern over people here illegally being given what our own poverty-stricken families need. It seems like we hear a whole lot of talk about the needs of refugee immigrants and illegal immigrants, compared to whether the needs of our own indigent families are being met.

The Bible explicitly commands caring for both the poor and the foreigner, making the choice between them a false dilemma. Jesus identifies the true moral failure as neglecting mercy and justice (the weightier matters of the law) by focusing on someone’s legal status, just as the religious leaders of his time obsessed over minor rules while overlooking human suffering. The command to love your neighbor, whom Jesus defines as anyone in need, transcends citizenship or legal standing, reminding us that love is a command, not a limited resource.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Servus is right and so are the Biblical principles I've already shared with you.

Is there a reason you don't want to answer the question about what, if any, denomination you are?

No denomination which includes non-denominational.

 

[Pepperdoodle]

No denomination which includes non-denominational.

Thanks for the reply.
I'm no denomination also.

 

[Servus]

The Bible explicitly commands caring for both the poor and the foreigner, making the choice between them a false dilemma. Jesus identifies the true moral failure as neglecting mercy and justice (the weightier matters of the law) by focusing on someone’s legal status, just as the religious leaders of his time obsessed over minor rules while overlooking human suffering. The command to love your neighbor, whom Jesus defines as anyone in need, transcends citizenship or legal standing, reminding us that love is a command, not a limited resource.

Did Jesus give priority to the foreigner over Israel?

 

[Servus]

Thanks for the reply.
I'm no denomination also.

Same here.

 

[Yarddog]

The issue is the concern over people here illegally being given what our own poverty-stricken families need. It seems like we hear a whole lot of talk about the needs of refugee immigrants and illegal immigrants, compared to whether the needs of our own indigent families are being met.

I'm ready for that. Let's ensure our poor have insurance to take care of their needs. Let's get our Vets off the streets and into housing. Let's ensure that anyone with mental issues have access to psychological help.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Did Jesus give priority to the foreigner over Israel?

Delivering the Good News to a Jew first , as Jesus Christ of Nazareth did, has nothing to do with how the USA treats our neighbors concerning immigration. Additionally,
Israel is actually created from a pool of foreigners, " a mixed multitude ".
The Bible's narrative traces the people's origin to Abraham, an immigrant from Mesopotamia, and describes the Israelites themselves as "foreigners" in Egypt who were commanded to treat the "stranger" living among them with justice, emphasizing their own origins as sojourners. Scripture also tells us that other nations and peoples were present in the land and intermingled with the Israelites. I emphasize again, they were a " mixed multitude ".

 

[Servus]

Delivering the Good News to a Jew first , as Jesus Christ of Nazareth did, has nothing to do with how the USA treats our neighbors concerning immigration. Additionally,
Israel is actually created from a pool of foreigners, " a mixed multitude ".
The Bible's narrative traces the people's origin to Abraham, an immigrant from Mesopotamia, and describes the Israelites themselves as "foreigners" in Egypt who were commanded to treat the "stranger" living among them with justice, emphasizing their own origins as sojourners. Scripture also tells us that other nations and peoples were present in the land and intermingled with the Israelites. I emphasize again, they were a " mixed multitude ".

The answer is that while Jesus helped others, his main focus was on healing and helping fellow Jews. He put the needs people of Israel first. I get that there are liberal Christians who want US citizens to pay for taking care of millions of illegal aliens while ignoring fellow citizens in need, but let's not pretend that's how Jesus operated.