War Secretary Hegseth orders rare, urgent meeting of hundreds of generals, admirals Sep 30 in Virginia

[GoldenBoy89]

What do you mean by war?

I don’t know. I don’t mean anything by it. These are the president’s words, not mine.

You know what he said, I don't, so please tell me exactly what he said.

You mean you didn’t watch the propaganda video they prepared for you? They spent all this money and effort bringing all the top brass together and you don’t even bother to watch it?

How disloyal of you.

Yes. The National Guard is deployed to U.S. cities in response to emergencies or situations where law enforcement authorities need additional support.

Whether they ask for it or not.

What emergencies have the various mayors and governors recently declared that need national guard to support law enforcement?

 

[Servus]

I don’t know. I don’t mean anything by it. These are the president’s words, not mine.

You mean you didn’t watch the propaganda video they prepared for you? They spent all this money and effort bringing all the top brass together and you don’t even bother to watch it?

How disloyal of you.

How about just answering the question?

Whether they ask for it or not.

What emergencies have the various mayors and governors recently declared that need national guard to support law enforcement?

"emergencies or situations". The situation is the NG is there to protect ICE. Unless ICE is objecting to that, you don't have a case for complaint. ICE is there do do their job, and crazed rioters are going to have to get though the military in order to harm ICE agents. Aww poor crazed rioters. They'll have to put away their rocks, bricks, molotov cocktails, and guns boo hoo hoo.

 

[wing2000]

"And you have animals shooting at them, shooting bullets at firemen that are way up in death territory. You fall off that ladder, it’s over. It’s over."

Where and when?

 

[DaisyDay]

I'm hoping they will enhance the virility and lethality of the brass with a mass beard and mustache shaving.

Man, you called it!

The shaving thing is directed against the Black soldiers because folliculitis (inflamed beard follicles) is common among them. Most have been allowed to keep a stubble - this was in some military news a short while back.

 

[Pommer]

How excruciating that must of been for them. Talking to them like they were Boy Scouts.

One recalls that this did happen in Trump 1.0; reviews were “mixed”.

 

[wing2000]

"emergencies or situations". The situation is the NG is there to protect ICE. Unless ICE is objecting to that, you don't have a case for complaint. ICE is there do do their job, and crazed protesters are going to have to get though the military in order to harm ICE agents. Aww poor crazed protesters. They'll have to put away their rocks, bricks, molotov cocktails, and guns boo hoo hoo.

Trump dreams of sending the active forces into our cities and will use *any* pretense to do so (i.e. protecting ICE) ....he says so out loud:

"And I told Pete we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military — National Guard, but military — because we’re going into Chicago very soon. That’s a big city with an incompetent governor. Stupid governor."

....

"Last month, I signed an executive order to provide training for a quick reaction force that can help quell civil disturbances. This is going to be a big thing for the people in this room because it’s the enemy from within, and we have to handle it before it gets out of control. It won’t get out of control."

Civil disturbances....

.....

"That’s what the oath says, foreign and domestic. Well, we also have domestic. George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Grover Cleveland, George Bush, and others all used the armed forces to keep domestic order and peace."

President Trump Address to Pentagon Leaders at Marine Corps Base Quantico – Full Transcript

(0:00 - 0:19) Ladies and gentlemen, the Secretary of War. Well, you've heard from me. So now it's the main

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[Pommer]

Yes. The National Guard is deployed to U.S. cities in response to emergencies or situations where law enforcement authorities need additional support.

Who gets to “decide” whether the armed services are needed to quell the locals?
And why is it the President?

 

[Servus]

Trump dreams of sending the active forces into our cities and will use *any* pretense to do so (i.e. protecting ICE) ....he says so out loud:

"And I told Pete we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military — National Guard, but military — because we’re going into Chicago very soon. That’s a big city with an incompetent governor. Stupid governor."

....

"Last month, I signed an executive order to provide training for a quick reaction force that can help quell civil disturbances. This is going to be a big thing for the people in this room because it’s the enemy from within, and we have to handle it before it gets out of control. It won’t get out of control."

Civil disturbances....

.....

"That’s what the oath says, foreign and domestic. Well, we also have domestic. George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Grover Cleveland, George Bush, and others all used the armed forces to keep domestic order and peace."

President Trump Address to Pentagon Leaders at Marine Corps Base Quantico – Full Transcript

(0:00 - 0:19) Ladies and gentlemen, the Secretary of War. Well, you've heard from me. So now it's the main

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Sounds like local government had better start doing a better job of maintaining law and order. Maybe they'll get voted out in 26, and that will solve the problem.

 

[Servus]

Who gets to “decide” whether the armed services are needed to quell the locals?
And why is it the President?

Because regional and local government is so bad at doing the job of maintaining law and order. The President isn't going to let them bring their cities to complete ruin.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

How about just answering the question?

How about you just watch the video the defense War Department made just for you? All the answers you seek from me are right there for you.

The situation is the NG is there to protect ICE. Unless ICE is objecting to that, you don't have a case for complaint.

My complaint is about the president declaring war against his own people.

That, and people like you cheering him on.

Remember how sad you all were a couple weeks ago over “dangerous rhetoric from the left”? Is threatening military action against protestors not dangerous, violent and divisive rhetoric to you?

ICE is there do do their job, and crazed rioters are going to have to get though the military in order to harm ICE agents. Aww poor crazed rioters. They'll have to put away their rocks, bricks, molotov cocktails, and guns boo hoo hoo.

Pretty weak and ineffective law enforcement agency if their work is so easily thwarted by common people throwing rocks.

 

[Chesterton]

Man, you called it!

The shaving thing is directed against the Black soldiers because folliculitis (inflamed beard follicles) is common among them. Most have been allowed to keep a stubble - this was in some military news a short while back.

You can start a thread about that here: Conspiracy Theories

Hegseth's speech was excellent.

 

[Yarddog]

WaPo

AI Overview

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered an urgent and unprecedented gathering of hundreds of U.S. generals and admirals at a Marine Corps base in Virginia, causing widespread confusion within the Department of Defense. The unusual directive, which did not state a reason for the meeting, was sent to virtually all of the military's top commanders worldwide.

• The rare meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, September 30, at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Virginia.
• Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell confirmed the meeting, telling The Washington Post that Hegseth "will be addressing his senior military leaders early next week," but offered no further details.

It was good to see that the military brass didn't give Trump what he wanted. They say there in silence.

 

[RDKirk]

Well that's wrong. He said, "if you want to applaud, applaud" in the future tense as in 'respond however you want to'. Are people supposed to not hear what he actually said and not discern the context of it?

Ordinarily, the military would not applaud.

But this kind of thing is exactly what I pointed out earlier: Who wants to be seen not applauding? In that kind of setting, nobody wants to be this guy.

I wonder if whoever stopped applauding first was noted.

 

[RDKirk]

Man, you called it!

The shaving thing is directed against the Black soldiers because folliculitis (inflamed beard follicles) is common among them. Most have been allowed to keep a stubble - this was in some military news a short while back.

As I explained at length earlier, the new rules are no different from the rules I served under...and it made no difference in black enlistment. Black men were still winning.

A problem is that because the desire today we wear a beard is so strong, exceptions have been made, such a whole lot of white men wearing beards claiming to practice the "Norse Religion," without the normal questions of other religious exemptions. Soldiers have been wearing far more than just the stubble we were allowed, wearing full-length trimmed beards. Under the religious exemptions, some are wearing dreadlocks. This is Gen Z, remember, and Gen Z difficulties with fitting in to any firm structure are legion and legendary.

Basically, it all got pushed too far too quickly (give it another 20 years, though).

Also, at the same time this was happening with a lot of other accommodation demands and pressures, many of which indeed do decrease the ability of US forces to fight and win wars. I have not at all been a defender of DEI in the armed forces.

 

[durangodawood]

I wonder if whoever stopped applauding first was noted.

They check for palm blisters on your way out.

 

[RDKirk]

"I'm pretty sure this could have been a zoom call," Said everyone seated in the room.

 

[Chesterton]

"I'm pretty sure this could have been a zoom call," Said everyone seated in the room.

Are you just pretending you don't know this speech was intended for the American public? Or do you really not get it?

 

[Servus]

Ordinarily, the military would not applaud.

But this kind of thing is exactly what I pointed out earlier: Who wants to be seen not applauding? In that kind of setting, nobody wants to be this guy.

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I wonder if whoever stopped applauding first was noted.

Wow I've seen going way overboard regarding things Trump says to make him out to be Hitler. But this really takes the cake.

 

[Servus]

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"I'm pretty sure this could have been a zoom call," Said everyone seated in the room.

They really should have a work from home system instead of having to go anywhere at all.

 

[RDKirk]

They really should have a work from home system instead of having to go anywhere at all.

Many generals do have tiny SCIFs (Special Compartmented Information Facilities) built into their base quarters where they can "work from home."