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God doesnt stop being God, who He is when its outside the soteriological context

Of course not. Which is why it is ludicrous to say that God decreed every lustful, prideful, murderous thought and act, in excruciating detail. Because that is not who He is:

1 John 1:5-7​
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. (KJV)​
There is no darkness in Him at all.
 
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FAITH-IN-HIM said:
But my question is how do you know you are created in God’s image and elected for eternity?​
Lol, if I was you, worry about yourself​
So you don’t know if you are one of those elected one. That is unfortunate.​
On the other hand, I am confident in my acceptance of Christ as my personal savior and in the promise of eternal life. I am a child of God, with my citizenship in heaven seald by the Holy Spirit.​
If you're unsure, just turn to Christ, repent, and accept Him as your savior. And you will have eternal life and no matter what You will have the assurance that one day you will be in haven.​
No need to worry about if God elected you or not elect you, just come to Christ and accept him as your savior.​
We will discuss it on Judgment Day​

Why wait?

1 John 5:9-13​
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. 10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. (KJV)​
 
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We will discuss it on Judgment Day
I don't need to wait until judgment day to know I'm saved by grace. I'm a citizen of heaven and have assurance of my place there, both now and in the future.

If you're unsure, don't wait—come to Christ, repent, and accept him as your saviour. You can also speak with a pastor or another believer for guidance on salvation.
 
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And to clarify, are you the sort of Calvinist who thinks that every action and thought was meticulously decreed by God prior to creation? Would you see every sin as ordained? Would you see every event of history, and every mundane cat meme on the internet as decreed from the beginning?​
Yes Eph 1:11​
Sinful lusts are not from the Father:

1 John 2:16 (KJV) 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.​
 
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