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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

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'It' was not factual inaccuracy.
That's not the point. The point is it angered and upset a lot of people. Saying Kimmel got suspended for making an inaccurate statement is disingenuous. He got suspended because of what that statement resulted in. It did a lot of damage.

As a side note: In January 2022, while discussing a Tennessee school board's ban of Art Spiegelman's graphic novel Maus, Goldberg said the Holocaust was about "man's inhumanity to man," not race. Despite other co-hosts attempting to correct her by pointing out that the Nazis considered Jews a different race, Goldberg insisted that the perpetrators and the victims were "two white groups of people"

So Whoopie's remarks were indeed a matter of factual inaccuracy.
 
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That's not the point. The point is it angered and upset a lot of people.
Right, that is the point. So let's all dispense with handwringing over the accuracy of the statement. That's entirely beside the point.


He got suspended because of what that statement resulted in. It did a lot of damage.
Damage? Hurt feelings?
So Whoopie's remarks were indeed a matter of factual inaccuracy.
Again, that's not why she was pulled, but because it angered and upset a lot of people.
 
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Another poster implied that Kimmel got in trouble for a joke. He didn't get in trouble for saying that thing about "construction grief".
They thought he did. A lot of people thought that Kimmel was having a go at Kirk. He wasn't. He was showing Trump to be the person he is. His comments were about Trump and some of the rusted on MAGA people trying to divert any attention away from the possibility that the kid was a right wing nut.

That diversion was irrelevant. Which was part of the point Kimmel was making. The kid doesn't represent anyone except himself.
 
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The kid doesn't represent anyone except himself.

Well himself and everyone on the left or has entertained a leftist thought in their lifetime.
 
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They thought he did.
They thought wrong, didn't they?
A lot of people thought that Kimmel was having a go at Kirk. He wasn't. He was showing Trump to be the person he is. His comments were about Trump and some of the rusted on MAGA people trying to divert any attention away from the possibility that the kid was a right wing nut.
No one on planet Earth actually considered the possibility that the murderer was right wing. Why do you entertain political liars?
 
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Well himself and everyone on the left or has entertained a leftist thought in their lifetime.
Unfortunately we're at a point where some of our right leaning chums will give that a thumbs up.
 
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It was actually ABC who made the point by pulling his show, then caving in to violent protesters.
Yeah, a liberal Democtat just recently fired shots at ABC, right after Kimmel's show got expelled from the airwaves.

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"Prosecutors believe the shooting was politically motivated, citing evidence found in the suspect's vehicle and home. Authorities discovered handwritten notes referencing conservative activist Charlie Kirk's assassination"

Suspect's name is Anibal Hernandez Santana, a 64-year-old retired lobbyist, though I consider him a left wing terrorist. Not a lobbyist.
 
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They thought wrong, didn't they?

No one on planet Earth actually considered the possibility that the murderer was right wing. Why do you entertain political liars?
You're not following this.

Kimmel didn't say anything of the sort and I doubt if any reasonable person would have thought that. Kimmel's point was that MAGA people were strident in denying that the kid was right wing. Suggesting, and in some cases claiming with zero evidence, that he was a liberal. Kimmel was pointing out that immediately after the shot was fired there were people trying to score political points.

Were there people on both sides of the divide doing that? Yes, unfortunately there were. But Kimmel's audience is left wing so he berated the right. Big deal. He was preaching to his choir. Don't like that? Well, tough luck, buddy. I'm pretty certain that you don't watch his show so if he has a go at MAGA and Trump then what's it to you? Go watch Kirk saying things that you'd prefer to hear or go listen so some right wing podcast.
 
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Were there people on both sides of the divide doing that? Yes, unfortunately there were. But Kimmel's audience is left wing so he berated the right. Big deal. He was preaching to his choir. Don't like that? Well, tough luck, buddy. I'm pretty certain that you don't watch his show so if he has a go at MAGA and Trump then what's it to you? Go watch Kirk saying things that you'd prefer to hear or go listen so some right wing podcast.
How come that sentiment doesn't apply to Alex Jones, when he said the Sandy Hook shooting was fake?

If people didn't like what Jones was saying, they could have tuned into anything else.
 
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How come that sentiment doesn't apply to Alex Jones, when he said the Samdy Hook shooting was fake?

If people didn't like what Jones was saying, they could have tuned into anything else.
Because Alex Jones went way beyond just saying it was fake. The parents were harassed endlessly, even after moving several times. Jones encouraged it, and actively sought out the parents to "expose them" on camera. The two are not comparable in the least. Do some basic research on his case.
 
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How come that sentiment doesn't apply to Alex Jones, when he said the Samdy Hook shooting was fake?

If people didn't like what Jones was saying, they could have tuned into anything else.
I guess only a post in this forum could compare Jones and his utterly disgraceful and execrable comments about the deaths of so many young kids and the further agonies it caused their parents with a late night talk show host having a dig at Trump.
 
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Because Alex Jones went way beyond just saying it was fake. The parents were harassed endlessly, even after moving several times. Jones encouraged it, and actively sought out the parents to "expose them" on camera. The two are not comparable in the least. Do some basic research on his case.
Well, now we have people shooting at ABC, over Kimmel's suspension, is that not worse than someone interviewing Sandy Hook victims?
 
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I guess only a post in this forum could compare Jones and his utterly disgraceful and execrable comments about the deaths of so many young kids and the further agonies it caused their parents with a late night talk show host having a dig at Trump.
Well, you said to just ignore peopl6 who you don't like, or disagree with. Now you don't think so, eh? Only works when you want it to?
 
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Because Alex Jones went way beyond just saying it was fake. The parents were harassed endlessly, even after moving several times. Jones encouraged it, and actively sought out the parents to "expose them" on camera. The two are not comparable in the least. Do some basic research on his case.

Yes, his actions resulted real harm to the victim's families.

What harm did Kimmel do? Oh, that's right. He called MAGA out for poltiically exploiting Kirk's murder within hours of his murder.
 
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Well, you said to just ignore peopl6 who you don't like, or disagree with. Now you don't think so, eh? Only works when you want it to?
Not worth a response.
 
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Well, now we have people shooting at ABC, over Kimmel's suspension, is that not worse than someone interviewing Sandy Hook victims?

People? You cited one person.

Just as one person killed Charlie Kirk. ...but within hours, MAGA, including Turning Point USA, was claiming "they" killed him.
 
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Well, now we have people shooting at ABC, over Kimmel's suspension, is that not worse than someone interviewing Sandy Hook victims?
Comparing these 2 events as similar is not reasonable or logical. Not wasting anymore time on this comparison. Bye.
 
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