Charlie Kirk's Memorial Service: Let's Talk About That.

[Tropical Wilds]

Altar calls are always a bit suspect in terms of their efficacy and the level of commitment of the respondents. Add in the propensity for the folks in this crowd to grandstand and use religious displays as a form of virtue signaling, and… yeah.

That’s where I’m at.

But OTOH, who among us could listen to Stephen Miller’s impassioned description of his once-dormant dragon awakening to vanquish his foes and not feel blanketed in the warm love of Jesus? His repeated claims that we’ve created nothing just reinforced how much we need to not rely on ourselves but on the power found through faith in Christ.

I didn’t see it, and since I’m not the target audience, that’s ok with me.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

This country would do well if it did more God fearing and less God mocking.

I was mocking Trump, not God. The line between them may be blurry for a good number of people, but it’s still there.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Maybe.

Could you cue the video up to that part?

A video of another poster remarking on Trump being a dictator…? How would I go about producing such a video?

No you don't because he's never lost.

He’s run four times and lost two, my dude.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Yep, people were upset. Didn’t say they weren’t.

 

[Hazelelponi]

He’s run four times and lost two, my dude

No apparently you don't live in the United States.

Donald Trump has only run for president 3 times. Once in the 2016 presidential election, the 2020 election, and the 2024 election.

Those are the only elections Trump has ever ran in.

Donald Trump is not seen as losing the 2020 election by everyone. So when people say that he didn't lose, know that arguing isn't going to be convincing. People already know he didn't serve 3 terms.

 

[JosephZ]

Donald Trump has only run for president 3 times. Once in the 2016 presidential election, the 2020 election, and the 2024 election.

Those are the only elections Trump has ever ran in.

Trump ran for president in 2000.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

No apparently you don't live in the United States.

I do, actually.

Donald Trump has only run for president 3 times. Once in the 2016 presidential election, the 2020 election, and the 2024 election.

Those are the only elections Trump has ever ran in.

False.

He ran in 2016, 2020, 2024, and 2000. He announced his candidacy tentatively in November 1999, released his campaign outline in January 2000, quit in February, and won for his party in both of the primaries he was qualified for.

Donald Trump 2000 presidential campaign - Wikipedia

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Know your history, my dude.

Donald Trump is not seen as losing the 2020 election by everyone. So when people say that he didn't lose, know that arguing isn't going to be convincing. People already know he didn't serve 3 terms.

He lost it according to all reputable sources, legal findings, and did not serve during that four year window, which is consistent with him being the loser in the election. He also withdrew his candidacy in 2000, making him a loser then, too.

Now, I know you’re going to pull the conspiracy stuff for 2020 and goalpost shift to say that 2000 doesn’t count because he quit or it was a short run or he wasn’t a serious or it was so short… But in the scope of US history and basic universal facts, he has run four times, lost twice, despite efforts to spin it otherwise.

 

[Chesterton]

A video of another poster remarking on Trump being a dictator…? How would I go about producing such a video?

You're the one who said it. I assume you have access to the video.

He’s run four times and lost two, my dude.

Nope.

 

[RileyG]

Guys. He was hilarious at the un today.

That has to mean something.

I still need to listen to it. Or not.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

You're the one who said it. I assume you have access to the video.

I never said I had access to a video…? Again, how would I have access to a video of a poster making a claim about “leftists” saying Trump is a dictator?

Nope.

Yup.

For nationalists, y’all kind of have a weak grasp on US history.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I still need to listen to it. Or not.

The last statement.

 

[RileyG]

Altar calls are always a bit suspect in terms of their efficacy and the level of commitment of the respondents. Add in the propensity for the folks in this crowd to grandstand and use religious displays as a form of virtue signaling, and… yeah.

But OTOH, who among us could listen to Stephen Miller’s impassioned description of his once-dormant dragon awakening to vanquish his foes and not feel blanketed in the warm love of Jesus? His repeated claims that we’ve created nothing just reinforced how much we need to not rely on ourselves but on the power found through faith in Christ.

Theology differs from Church to Church. Some believe in Once Saved, Always Saved, and others believe one must persevere until the end. So, I don't know how one would define efficacy in that case, eh? Only God can judge their hearts.

 

[RileyG]

The last statement.

K. Maybe I won't.

 

[Chesterton]

Odd choice to use a memorial service to stump for the death of democracy, but about what I expected.

I'd like to see the part where he stumped for the death of democracy.

 

[RileyG]

Yes, it was an amazing amount of people!

If people were saved, then Glory to God in all things! Even God can bring good out of immense evil.

 

[RileyG]

Here’s guessing the majority were already Christian and this was simply preaching to the choir.

That's true, but maybe they wanted to re-commit themselves and be more fervent? Who knows? Or their emotions were very running very high?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Really? Christians on here make judgements about people’s salvation all the time.

Really, though, I’m not pessimistic about salvation, just dubious of the claim that event attracted people who weren’t already Christians to begin with. It’s like going to a football game and marveling at the home team’s popularity.

I have never seen a single Christian on these forums casually dismissing a person coming to the faith. At least, up until now.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

K. Maybe I won't.

Watch a reputable recap that hits the highlights.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

I'd like to see the part where he stumped for the death of democracy.

You did, just now.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

I was mocking Trump, not God. The line between them may be blurry for a good number of people, but it’s still there.

I never said you were mocking God. Just in general, this country would do well if there was a revival of the Fear of the Lord. Another Great Awakening if you will. I remain hopeful that Charlie Kirk's death sparks a movement that brings the nation to its knees in prayer and repentance.