Sacramento ABC affiliate hit with gunfire day after Jimmy Kimmel protest

[rambot]

Okay, what two beliefs do I hold that are in opposition to each other?

That Trump should cancel Jimmy and that the first ammendment is a thing.

 

[rambot]

Oh my! What a damning piec...oh wait a sec.

1) She made an unquestioningly racist comment
2) The network itself chose to dump her
and...maybe the most important part...

Did Obama use his powers as president to pursuade ABC to dump her?

No.
Because he wasn't president at the time.
Maybe 15 seconds of research first.

Find an example of a SITTING president behaving like this and having his FCC chair throw weight around.

Embarrassing what the right has become.

It never has been about FREE Speech at all.
Which is why I've always argued I'm against free speech. Because I'm consistent at least..even though my position may be seen abhorrent. Again, those on the right want to FEEL that they are rigtht eous as they yell "free speech" to protect the racist, misogynist talking heads...
but either
1) They are ACTUALLY okay with racist speech and don't see the big deal.
or
2) It was never really about FREE speech at all.

But someone tells a joke point out Trump's misanthrope and you'd think they themselves were shot.

All Trump's presidency seems to be showing is that the left has had a first understanding of Trump and, by extension, the true feelings of his supporters. We are right and right again.

 

[Servus]

That Trump should cancel Jimmy and that the first ammendment is a thing.

Wrong, and I was asking @iluvatar5150

 

[iluvatar5150]

Okay, what two beliefs do I hold that are in opposition to each other?

The first amendment is good and ought to be protected and abided by.

Trump and his policies are good.

 

[Servus]

The first amendment is good and ought to be protected and abided by.

Doesn't apply to:

ABC suspended Brian Ross over what he spoke.
ABC suspended Whoopie Goldberg over what she spoke.
NBC suspended Brian Williams over what he spoke.
ABC fired Bill Maher over what he spoke.
Disney fired Rosanne Barr over what she spoke.
Disney fired Gina Carano over what she spoke
Fox fired Tucker Carlson over what he spoke.
ESPN suspended Bob Griese over what he spoke.
ABC/Disney suspended Jimmy Kimmel over what he spoke.

I'm sure I could find many other examples of where a network suspended or fired someone because of what they spoke. Businesses do that, legally. Especially networks. Being the employee of a network is a privilege, not a right.

Trump and his policies are good.

Trump didn't create a policy to have Jimmy Kimmel suspended.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Without looking it up, what do you think cognitive dissonance means?

You keep saying that, yet even ABC/Disney hasn't made that argument. Are you just trying to assuage your own cognitive dissonance about supporting an administration that's so blatantly violating the first amendment?
You probably didn't even know what that word means.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Doesn't apply to:

ABC suspended Brian Ross over what he spoke.
ABC suspended Whoopie Goldberg over what she spoke.
NBC suspended Brian Williams over what he spoke.
ABC fired Bill Maher over what he spoke.
Disney fired Rosanne Barr over what she spoke.
Disney fired Gina Carano over what she spoke
Fox fired Tucker Carlson over what he spoke.
ESPN suspended Bob Griese over what he spoke.
ABC/Disney suspended Jimmy Kimmel over what he spoke.

I'm sure I could find many other examples of where a network suspended or fired someone because of what they spoke. Businesses do that, legally. Especially networks. Being the employee of a network is a privilege, not a right.


Trump didn't create a policy to have Jimmy Kimmel suspended.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, man.

You keep saying that, yet even ABC/Disney hasn't made that argument. Are you just trying to assuage your own cognitive dissonance about supporting an administration that's so blatantly violating the first amendment?

You probably didn't even know what that word means.

lol, cribbing talking points from @Servus noe?

 

[Servus]

Whatever helps you sleep at night, man.

No conspiracy theory paranoia, no insomnia.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Whatever helps you sleep at night, man.


lol, cribbing talking points from @Servus noe?

What on earth are you talking about?

 

[iluvatar5150]

What on earth are you talking about?

You and Servus both challenged my understanding of what “cognitive dissonance” means, which is an odd coincidence if you’re not working off the same set of talking points.

 

[Servus]

What's ironic about ABC firing Bill Maher over what he said, is his show was replaced by Jimmy Kimmel's show.

 

[BPPLEE]

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Police in Sacramento announced an arrest in the investigation of a shooting at ABC10's office.
64-year-old Anibal Hernandezsantana was arrested at a home in Sacramento, the Sacramento Police Department said on a X post early Saturday.
Hernandezsantana's charges include assault with a deadly weapon, shooting into an occupied building, and negligent discharge of a firearm, police said.

Any relation to Roseanne Rosannadanna?

 

[Servus]

You and Servus both challenged my understanding of what “cognitive dissonance” means, which is an odd coincidence if you’re not working off the same set of talking points.

I challenged it because I see the term "cognitive dissonance" being bandied about to excess by those on the left. Making it look like they're just 'cribbing talking points' from each other.

 

[Servus]

Any relation to Roseanne Rosannadanna?

It's always something.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

You and Servus both challenged my understanding of what “cognitive dissonance” means, which is an odd coincidence if you’re not working off the same set of talking points.

Or perhaps we are just two separate people with the same observation.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Or perhaps we are just two separate people with the same observation.

Did you know what it meant?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Did you know what it meant?

Yes.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Yes.

Then why were you skeptical that I knew what it meant? It's not exactly a complicated or arcane concept. I'd like to think I don't present myself as a troglodyte around here.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I don't understand the angst over Jimmy Kimmel. People who watch late night television want to be entertained, they don't want politics. I suspect ABC had long wanted to get rid of him because of the poor ratings but would have lost even more money breaking the contract they had with him. I'm guessing they were able to interpret his comments as violating the terms of his contract which gave them a cost free means of dropping him. I'm curious to see if he tries to fight it in court.

The chain of events, and causes here, are pretty cut and dry.

Kimmel made a comment on his show that people in MAGA were working overtime to not consider the possibility that the killer was one of them. The worst that can be said about Kimmel's comment was that it implies Kirk's murderer was MAGA, and that is factually untrue.

It wasn't directed at Kirk, it wasn't hateful, it wasn't violent, it was at worst an incorrect statement.

In response to this the head of the FCC, Brenden Carr on a podcast said network broadcasters can "do things the easy way or do things the hard way", it was a less-than-veiled threat that if network broadcasters didn't do something themselves, the FCC would get directly involved.

In response to Carr's comment, network broadcasting companies told ABC they wouldn't show Kimmel's show. ABC depends on affiliate network broadcasters, this would hurt their pockets. And so ABC pulled the plug, suspending the show indefinitely.

This is so obvious, in fact, that Republican politicians, such as Texas Senator Ted Cruz, while happy that Kimmel doesn't have a show, expressed how troubling it is that the FCC effectively mafia-style pressured the network to do what it said. Cruz himself presented it as a mafia-style pressuring, in the interview he literally compares it to the mafia and puts on a Goodfellas affectation.

This is an obvious example of the current administration in the US acting in an authoritarian manner.

One is free to be offended by what Kimmel said. One can think it was tasteless, or talk about how it is irresponsible to speak in such a way about something without all the facts. There are a lot of things that could be said.

But this is also a dangerous precedent in the grand scope of American free speech. And that's not just people on "the left" saying this. Plenty on "the right" are saying the same thing.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Then why were you skeptical that I knew what it meant? It's not exactly a complicated or arcane concept. I'd like to think I don't present myself as a troglodyte around here.

Because unless your goal is projection, I just assumed you are using words that you do not understand.