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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

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Yeah, stuff like that is pretty despicable and should be condemned. But then we get people saying that Kimmel's monologue was somehow "celebrating" Kirk's death too, which waters down the accusation.

This is an issue that faces both sides of the political divide in the US - I see frequent complaints here about how accusations of "racism" are over-used, for example, and this is a similar situation.

I actually think Jimmy Kimmel's remark was stupid, based on speculation rather than facts. And like a broken clock being right twice a day, Jimmy Kimmel isn't funny, either.

Bringing back the Fairness Doctrine isn't quite the same as authoritarianism. Airwaves are still owned by the public and licensed by the FFC, and theoretically broadcast TV is still relevant (even though 8-VSB was a horrible over-air technology to use for HDTV that mostly renders broadcast TV useless now in the US). As much as I detest Trump, or the memorializing of Kirk... this isn't the hill to die on in the name of "freedom of speech". It's just more fodder for media outrage churn, and a distraction from the hard work of real political organizing. In today's climate, outrage has little currency in mobilizing genuine change. And right now, I think the Left should remember the words of Napoleon, "Never interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake". Sometimes the hardest thing to do, is to do nothing, but sometimes it's the prudent thing to do.
 
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For your side, yes. For our side, finally, outrage is mobilizing change.

Change in itself is merely value neutral. The question is what you change into. The results will speak for themselves.
 
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Change in itself is merely value neutral. The question is what you change into. The results will speak for themselves.
Any change away from a culture that loves hate and violence would be a positive change.
 
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Any change away from a culture that loves hate and violence would be a positive change.
Tell the president to stop hating then. This was at a memorial. Let that sink in. Here's the quote:

"He [Charlie Kirk] did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent and I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry. And maybe they can convince me that that's not right. But I can't stand my opponent."

Let the hate flow!
 
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Any change away from a culture that loves hate and violence would be a positive change.

Change away from hate only matters if those pushing it genuinely oppose hate. When MAGA uses outrage strategically, it's not actual opposition to hate, but just the appearance of strength to serve power.
 
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Change away from hate only matters if those pushing it genuinely oppose hate. When MAGA uses outrage strategically, it's not actual opposition to hate, but just the appearance of strength to serve power.
You wrote some words.
 
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Tell the president to stop hating then. This was at a memorial. Let that sink in. Here's the quote:

"He [Charlie Kirk] did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent and I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry. And maybe they can convince me that that's not right. But I can't stand my opponent."

Let the hate flow!
Kudos for admitting Kirk was a better man than himself
 
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I actually think Jimmy Kimmel's remark was stupid, based on speculation rather than facts. And like a broken clock being right twice a day, Jimmy Kimmel isn't funny, either.
I don't know what that has to do with my post - none of that changes the fact that he was not celebrating Kirk's death.
Bringing back the Fairness Doctrine isn't quite the same as authoritarianism.
I don't have a problem with bringing back the Fairness Doctrine - it would just need to be applied evenly, not be trotted out any time someone says something that the party in power doesn't like.
 
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There is no racism. The dark cloud has been growing ever since Obama took over and the left got more and more crazy and violent.
Never happened.
They moved on from simply wanting to help.poor people and moved further and further left until the right became such a threat that the only way to end it is to.equate them with the worst people out there in history and killing them became the only option for some.
The right tried to kill Trump, Pence, both Pelosis, Whitmer, and tried to overthrow the government.
 
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Except we know enough about the trans shooters to know they were. And we know enough about Kirk's shooter to know he was as well. The left has been more violent in the last 10 years. Blair White hasn't been violent. As far as I know we havent had any right leaning g transgender people killing school kids.
No, the right simply tried to assassinate Trump, Pence, both Pelosis, Whitmer, and tried to overthrow the government. Trivial, really.
 
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Tell the president to stop hating then. This was at a memorial. Let that sink in. Here's the quote:

"He [Charlie Kirk] did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent and I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry. And maybe they can convince me that that's not right. But I can't stand my opponent."

Let the hate flow!
I think we know who Trump thought the hero of Return of the Jedi was...
 
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No, the right simply tried to assassinate Trump
So, it looks like regular, everyday democrats not only believe the LIES from their news sources, but also wild conspiracy theories, as icing on the cake.
 
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