Trump says suspect in custody in killing of Charlie Kirk

[rjs330]

Again I say, if they believe someone should be killed because of their opinion, they should not be upset for being fired because of their own opinion.

As long as it was a violation of the policies and rules of their organization. If there was no such policy then they shouldnt be fired.

Its important to note that rhe left is perfectly fine with firing people who say right wing opinions. And they point out over and over again how free speech restrictions only apply to governement restrictions. They were were fine with firing people who wouldnt follow policy regarding pronouns and rhe argument was always well policy says and free speech only applies to government enforcement.

Well now they are upset over someone celebrating assassination and getting fired while at the same time supporting firing of people who dont want to use preferred pronouns.

 

[rjs330]

He wanted the attacker to be bailed out, and said that whoever bailed him out would be an amazing patriot and hero. The only way that could be true is if the attacker is worthy of praise.

A hero for proving how inconsistent the justice system is along with proving the point of how rhe left operates. I remember the left encouraging people to bail.out those involved in felony rioting.

Sorry dude if that went over your head.

 

[durangodawood]

As long as it was a violation of the policies and rules of their organization. If there was no such policy then they shouldnt be fired.

Its important to note that rhe left is perfectly fine with firing people who say right wing opinions. And they point out over and over again how free speech restrictions only apply to governement restrictions. They were were fine with firing people who wouldnt follow policy regarding pronouns and rhe argument was always well policy says and free speech only applies to government enforcement.

Well now they are upset over someone celebrating assassination and getting fired while at the same time supporting firing of people who dont want to use preferred pronouns.

One is (horrible) opinion expression.

The other is how you behave toward people face to face.

These are different.

 

[RileyG]

I just had a random thought. I with all these liberals getting fired, I wonder if they are going to blame Trump for the sudden jump in the unemployment rate?

I mean, freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences, regardless of political beliefs or persuasion. Period.

 

[rjs330]

One is (horrible) opinion expression.

The other is how you behave toward people face to face.

These are different.

Yet the the principle still applies. You are dealing with words vs assassination. Real death. Celebrating the assassination of is far worse than refusing to use someone's pronouns. As I am sure you have pointed out companies are not under the Constitutional requirement of free speech. They have the right to restrict speech by policy. The government has passed no law on this, but companies can have rules and policies on this because what a person says can reflect poorly on the company and damage a companies reputation.

Celebrating the actual killing of someone you ideologically disagree with is absolutely abhorrent and damages a companies reputation and violates their policies. They are free to speak their mind and the company is free to fire them. They are under no legal obligation to allow that kind of evil speech. If an employee celebrated the death of George Floyd the company would be free to fire them. And I bet you would support that.

 

[essentialsaltes]

KEN KLIPPENSTEIN has some discord chats with the killer (some profanity, duh). Very little political in the content. Childhood friend also says he was largely apolitical. Bisexual, 'open' on LGBT issues, pro 2A.

Kilppenstein opines that he may go down as a Nihilist Violent Extremist.

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Meanwhile...

FBI ‘running down’ more than 20 Discord users in Kirk shooting probe: Patel​

 

[Chesterton]

Kilppenstein opines that he may go down as a Nihilist Violent Extremist.

Nihilist? Yes. Violent? Yes. Extremist? Yes. But there's something missing...

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Celebrating the actual killing of someone you ideologically disagree with is absolutely abhorrent and damages a companies reputation and violates their policies.

Abraham Lincoln, JFK, MLK, Bobby Kennedy. What makes us think we are dealing with anything new?

 

[essentialsaltes]

'No evidence' found yet of ties between Charlie Kirk's shooting and left-wing groups, officials say​

Three people familiar with the federal probe into Kirk’s assassination told NBC News that investigators have yet to find a link between the alleged shooter and left-wing groups.

Stephen Miller, the White House deputy chief of staff, said left-wing organizations amounted to a “vast domestic terror movement.”

“With God as my witness, we are going to use every resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle and destroy these networks and make America safe again for the American people,” Miller said recently. “It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie’s name.”

As NBC News reported Thursday, that effort is likely to face hurdles.

[Obviously he faces state charges.]

In addition, two of the people familiar with the probe said it may be difficult to charge Robinson at the federal level for Kirk’s killing, while the third source said there is still an expectation that some kind of federal charge is filed against Robinson.

Factors that have complicated the effort to bring charges at the federal level include that Robinson, a Utah resident, did not travel from out of state ... Additionally, Kirk himself is not a federal officer or elected official.

 

[childeye 2]

'No evidence' found yet of ties between Charlie Kirk's shooting and left-wing groups, officials say​

Three people familiar with the federal probe into Kirk’s assassination told NBC News that investigators have yet to find a link between the alleged shooter and left-wing groups.

Stephen Miller, the White House deputy chief of staff, said left-wing organizations amounted to a “vast domestic terror movement.”

“With God as my witness, we are going to use every resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle and destroy these networks and make America safe again for the American people,” Miller said recently. “It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie’s name.”

As NBC News reported Thursday, that effort is likely to face hurdles.

[Obviously he faces state charges.]

In addition, two of the people familiar with the probe said it may be difficult to charge Robinson at the federal level for Kirk’s killing, while the third source said there is still an expectation that some kind of federal charge is filed against Robinson.

Factors that have complicated the effort to bring charges at the federal level include that Robinson, a Utah resident, did not travel from out of state ... Additionally, Kirk himself is not a federal officer or elected official.

If crazy means disconnected from reality, these are insane thoughts --> “With God as my witness, we are going to use every resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle and destroy these networks and make America safe again for the American people,” Miller said recently. “It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie’s name.”

 

[rjs330]

'No evidence' found yet of ties between Charlie Kirk's shooting and left-wing groups, officials say​

Three people familiar with the federal probe into Kirk’s assassination told NBC News that investigators have yet to find a link between the alleged shooter and left-wing groups.

Stephen Miller, the White House deputy chief of staff, said left-wing organizations amounted to a “vast domestic terror movement.”

“With God as my witness, we are going to use every resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, dismantle and destroy these networks and make America safe again for the American people,” Miller said recently. “It will happen, and we will do it in Charlie’s name.”

As NBC News reported Thursday, that effort is likely to face hurdles.

[Obviously he faces state charges.]

In addition, two of the people familiar with the probe said it may be difficult to charge Robinson at the federal level for Kirk’s killing, while the third source said there is still an expectation that some kind of federal charge is filed against Robinson.

Factors that have complicated the effort to bring charges at the federal level include that Robinson, a Utah resident, did not travel from out of state ... Additionally, Kirk himself is not a federal officer or elected official.

Yeah, he may not be connected to any specific left wing groups. But you dont have to be in order to listen to their rhetoric.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Yeah, he may not be connected to any specific left wing groups. But you dont have to be in order to listen to their rhetoric.

You think the rhetoric of the Left is worse than the Right?

 

[Servus]

You think the rhetoric of the Left is worse than the Right?

I don't hear the right calling people facist nazis 24/4.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

I don't hear the right calling people facist nazis 24/4.

Really?
Calling Kamala Harris a "fascist": In late October 2024, Trump repeatedly referred to then-Vice President and Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris as a "fascist," a "Marxist," and a "communist".

Does anyone have more violent divisive rhetoric than our leader?

 

[Servus]

Really?
Calling Kamala Harris a "fascist": In late October 2024, Trump repeatedly referred to then-Vice President and Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris as a "fascist," a "Marxist," and a "communist".

That's like comparing a match to a forest fire. Countless people on the left call people on the right fascist nazis continuously.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

That's like comparing a match to a forest fire. Countless people on the left call people on the right fascist nazis continuously.

And countless people on the right call people on the left Marxists, communists, baby murderers, groomers, pedophiles, etc.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I don't hear the right calling people facist nazis 24/4.

And countless people on the right call people on the left Marxists, communists, baby murderers, groomers, pedophiles, etc.

This. And it’s been like this for decades. It’s so commonplace that you guys don’t even notice it.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

This. And it’s been like this for decades. It’s so commonplace that you guys don’t even notice it.

We all can tone it down. Me, in my conversations with my sister. What a challenge that is. We are total polarities.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

That's like comparing a match to a forest fire. Countless people on the left call people on the right fascist nazis continuously.

Trump has the loudest platform. He alone sets the pace for the Right. He validates the worst in them and sends the message that this rhetoric is ok.