ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

[Chesterton]

The murder of Charlie Kirk has dealt a substantial blow the the liberal leftist woke machine, by those who are a part of that machine. Massive self-sabotage.

And it's reverberating far outside of America, too.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Of course I've heard the clip. Why else would I be talking about it? If you can't figure it out, what he was saying was if there were no such thing as affirmative action, I would not wonder about a black pilot. But because of affirmative action, it can be legitimate to have a concern.

It's cued up:

It's a garbage take, because the "DEI" initiative in diversifying the pilot ranks was in getting more women and minorities into flight school, not in lowering the standards for them once they got there.

But hey, whatever is useful in stoking white resentment, eh?

 

[Chesterton]

Does he get a free racism before they count?

A what? Before who counts what?

 

[Aryeh Jay]

You guys are celebrating having canceled a show no one was even watching?

The best kind of winning!

Now there's going to be more money for Disney Gay Days!

 

[Chesterton]

It's a garbage take, because the "DEI" initiative in diversifying the pilot ranks was in getting more women and minorities into flight school, not in lowering the standards for them once they got there.

But hey, whatever is useful in stoking white resentment, eh?

Is it a "take" when someone asks you to clarify what you meant and you do so?

 

[ThatRobGuy]

It's hard to feel bad for Jimmy.

While I thought he was a talented comedian, he was the same one who was pretty joyful about someone else getting fired for expressing differing viewpoints.

(ignore the commentary in-between from whoever that youtuber is, this isn't an endorsement of his content, this was simply the only clip I was able to find showing when Jimmy laughed about Tucker getting fired)

And I can't remember if it was him or one of the others (perhaps John Oliver) who seemed to get a good chuckle out of people losing their jobs over expressing differing viewpoints on covid policy.

 

[Chesterton]

You guys are celebrating having canceled a show no one was even watching?

Technically he isn't cancelled, according to ABC. This is "pre-empted indefinitely culture".

 

[iluvatar5150]

Is it a "take" when someone asks you to clarify what you meant and you do so?

Yes.

It's hard to feel bad for Jimmy.

While I thought he was a talented comedian, he was the same one who was pretty joyful about someone else getting fired for expressing differing viewpoints.

(ignore the commentary in-between from whoever that youtuber is, this isn't an endorsement of his content, this was simply the only clip I was able to find showing when Jimmy laughed about Tucker getting fired)

I don't particularly care about any of them, but there's a pretty significant different between what Carlson did that led to his firing and what Kimmel did.

 

[Servus]

I hear Stephen King got roasted to death on X for posting a rotten lie about Charlie Kirk. One after the other making a pariah of themselves and their party.

 

[rambot]

Of course I've heard the clip. Why else would I be talking about it? If you can't figure it out, what he was saying was if there were no such thing as affirmative action, I would not wonder about a black pilot. But because of affirmative action, it can be legitimate to have a concern.

No it cannot.

It allows you to feel like yo ucan.

For the underlined statement to be true, two UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONs have to be true
1) that black people could NOT get that job on their own capacity.
2) That the company has NO interest in hiring properly qualified individuals.


It's hard to decide which take is hotter.

 

[Chesterton]

No it cannot.

It allows you to feel like yo ucan.

The UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONs are two fold are
1) that black people could NOT get that job on their own capacity.
2) That the company has NO interest in hiring properly qualified individuals.


It's hard to decide which take is hotter.

So you agree with me.

 

[rambot]

So you agree with me.

no

 

[Servus]

No it cannot.

It allows you to feel like yo ucan.

The UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONs are two fold are
1) that black people could NOT get that job on their own capacity.
2) That the company has NO interest in hiring properly qualified individuals.


It's hard to decide which take is hotter.

Why do you keep harping on black people?

 

[rambot]

Why do you keep harping on black people?

Still having trouble reading eh?

 

[Servus]

Still having trouble reading eh?

The D in DEI is for diversity, not black people.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

I don't particularly care about any of them, but there's a pretty significant different between what Carlson did that led to his firing and what Kimmel did.

I see both as having fanned the flames of political turmoil.

Tucker Carlson entertained false election theories that whipped people into a frenzy
Jimmy was entertaining false theories about the Kirk shooter being a "maga guy who killed one of their own"

If we're going to view it through the lens of public safety over speech, then "gooses and ganders, etc..." we all know the saying. Both sets of comments had the propensity to cause future violence.


Personally speaking, I'm not comfortable with arrangement of "State Actor coercing private company into deplatforming a public personality they don't like". So from a purely principle standpoint, I disagree with this as much as I disagreed with the government pressuring social media companies and spotify to "silence" certain voices.

But on a personal level, once someone has made fun of, or celebrated, someone else getting fired for viewpoints that aren't popular with the "in-power" party, then I can't feel too sorry for them when the same thing happens to them.


It's similar to how many felt about the situation when Rush Limbaugh got busted having drugs. Despite the fact many have a drug decriminalization position, the fact that he openly mocked other people who got busted with drugs previously, precluded them from feeling to awfully bad for him when he got busted for it.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I hear Stephen King got roasted to death on X for posting a rotten lie about Charlie Kirk. One after the other making a pariah of themselves and their party.

I'll trade you Stephen King for one of your celebrities of equivalent stature. Maybe JK Rowling or Kid Rock. We can bum a rocket off of Elmo and launch them both into the sun.

Deal?

I see both as having fanned the flames of political turmoil.

Tucker Carlson entertained false election theories that whipped people into a frenzy
Jimmy was entertaining false theories about the Kirk shooter being a "maga guy who killed one of their own"

Sure, but Kimmel did it for what, a day, and out of being a bit of an idiot. Carlson did it for months and on purpose.

But on a personal level, once someone has made fun of, or celebrated, someone else getting fired for viewpoints that aren't popular with the "in-power" party, then I can't feel too sorry for them when the same thing happens to them.

I agree. That's part of why I don't really shed a tear for Kimmel. But I will still point out the hypocrisy of the people who are demanding / cheering for him getting canned.

 

[essentialsaltes]

chair of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Brendan Carr said ... that the FCC was “going to have remedies that we can look at.” “Frankly, when you see stuff like this,” he said, “I mean look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way.
Carr explained: "There's actions we can take on licensed broadcasters. ... 'We're not gonna run Kimmel anymore...because we licensed broadcasters are running the possibility of fines or license revocation from the FCC.'"

There's always a tweet.

 

[Pommer]

From what I'm hearing: He was also lying to his audience, sticking to the narrative that Tyler was MAGA. The FCC is considering pulling ABC's FCC license. My guess is they didn't want to lose their license, so they pulled the plug to save their network.

Amazing that we’re at the point of demanding late-night comedians adhere to “the ‘official’ truth” while letting National leaders lie as much as they’d like.
Yup.

 

[Pommer]

I’m not censorship. It’s consequences to poor decisions.

It’s not a “news show”.