Eric Trump on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy and the Radical Left – “This Could Have Been the Greatest Mistake These People Have Ever Made” (VIDEO)

[Vambram]

Police recovered a Mauser Model 98 rifle in a nearby wooded area soon after Charlie Kirk’s murder. Utah’s Governor, Spencer Cox, later confirmed that unfired casings carried bizarre inscriptions.

These included: “Hey fascist! Catch!” (a line from the Tarantino movie Inglorious Basterds) is featured along with arrows which reference the multiplayer video game Helldivers, and various imperatives with the word ‘fascist’ are memes in the Helldivers community, which is popular with the far right community.

The gun casing engravings included some other classic internet trolling motifs – “If you read this, you are gay, LMAO” “notices bulge OWO what’s this?” – and a single line: “Bella Ciao.”

“Bella Ciao” is a 20th-century Italian folk song that became the anthem of the anti-fascist Resistance during the Second World War. Its lyrics – “O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao! – are a mournful yet defiant farewell to a life of freedom, sung by a partisan who is fighting and expects to die for the cause of liberation from fascism. After the song gained global recognition from its feature in the Netflix series Money Heist, the Groyper movement co-opted it.

Despite his firebrand style, Kirk was frequently attacked by figures on the far edges of the right for being insufficiently radical. White nationalist Nick Fuentes and his followers labeled Kirk a gatekeeper, accusing him of co-opting Trump's populist energy while diluting its message. During the so-called "Groyper Wars" in 2019, Fuentes supporters regularly disrupted Kirk's campus events, targeting him for not embracing a harder line on immigration and rejecting openly homophobic rhetoric.

No point in denial.

VP Vance hosts 'The Charlie Kirk Show' as memorial for conservative icon nears

Vice President JD Vance hosted an episode of 'The Charlie Kirk Show' on Monday following the assassination of the show's namesake. Turning Point USA has scheduled a massive memorial for Kirk at the Cardinals' NFL stadium in Arizona on Sunday.

www.foxnews.com

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Left-wing streamer Steve Bonnell, AKA “Destiny” called for conservatives to be killed more often so they will be afraid to attend events or speak out.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Vambram]

Leftist Teacher Showed Charlie Kirk Assassination to Students Over and Over Again, Told Them He Deserved it: Report

A public school teacher showed the assassination of Charlie Kirk multiple times to students as young as 10 years old.

www.westernjournal.com

 

[probinson]

Groyper slogans were engraved on the ammunition Robinson used. And they hated Charlie Kirk, disrupting his events. Sometimes with violence.

The available evidence shows that Tyler Robinson opposed Charlie Kirk and engraved slogans on bullet casings that drew from meme culture, gaming, furry subculture, and one anti-fascist anthem.​

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While some of these overlap with imagery that has circulated in Groyper circles, there is no proof that Robinson was part of Fuentes’s far-right movement.​

So your "evidence" is akin to saying, "Groypers drink Mountain Dew, and I saw Tyler Robinson drink Mountain Dew once. Ergo, Tyler Robinson is a Groyper!"

Nonsensical. There is no proof that Robinson was a Groyper. Any insistence that he was is nothing more than wishful conspiracy thinking.

 

[The Barbarian]

While some of these overlap with imagery that has circulated in Groyper circles, there is no proof that Robinson was part of Fuentes’s far-right movement.

Not proof. Evidence.

Fuentes and his Groypers hated Kirk and they repeatedly disrupted his events. That's evidence, too.
The extreme left hated him as well. But left-wing extremists are much less likely to shoot people they hate. None of that is overwhelming proof. But the preponderance of evidence remains.

Nonsensical.

And in the end, you have nothing but denial. In a way, that's evidence, too.

 

[The Barbarian]

Left-wing streamer Steve Bonnell, AKA “Destiny” called for conservatives to be killed more often so they will be afraid to attend events or speak out.

It's not just MAGA now; the extreme left is picking up the same tribal values as the right. We've been through this kind of thing before, but this time feels different.

 

[probinson]

Not proof. Evidence.

Fuentes and his Groypers hated Kirk and they repeatedly disrupted his events. That's evidence, too.

The extreme left hated him as well. But left-wing extremists are much less likely to shoot people they hate.

None of that is overwhelming proof.

None of that is ANY kind of proof.

But the preponderance of evidence remains.

If you say so.

Meanwhile back here in reality, there is currently nothing that links Tyler Robinson to the Groypers other than baseless conspiracy theories. The facts as they stand as of this posting are that NONE of us know why Robinson did what he did. Rational people will wait for solid evidence of his motives before jumping to wild conclusions based only on their preconceived bias and a paucity of what they have convinced themselves is "evidence".

 

[The Barbarian]

Not proof. Evidence.

Fuentes and his Groypers hated Kirk and they repeatedly disrupted his events. That's evidence, too.

The extreme left hated him as well. But left-wing extremists are much less likely to shoot people they hate.

Right-wing extremist terror incidents in the U.S. have been increasing since the mid-2000s, but the past six years have seen their sharpest rise yet. There were just seven right-wing terror incidents in the period 2005-2007, but by 2017-2019 there were 27, which increased to 40 in 2020-2022.

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) Center on Extremism (COE) has documented 67 domestic terror incidents by right-wing extremists in the United States from 2017 to 2022. These include successful terrorist attacks, failed terrorist attacks and foiled terrorist plots.

White supremacists were responsible for more attacks than any other type of right-wing extremist in the past six years (30 of 67, or 45%), but anti-government extremists, anti-abortion extremists and other types of right-wing extremists have also plotted and carried out attacks.

Right-wing terror attacks during this period also resulted in more deaths (58) from such attacks than any of the previous six-year periods since the time of the Oklahoma City bombing. All but five of those deaths occurred in white supremacist attacks—primarily mass shootings directed against minority targets.

https://www.adl.org/resources/report/right-wing-extremist-terrorism-united-states

None of that is ANY kind of proof.

Evidence. Reality. Deniers hate reality. But the preponderance of evidence remains.

If you say so.

Those are facts. And they say so. While the far right tries to distance themselves from the killing and invent all sorts of left-wing conspiracy theories, back in reality, the facts remain.

Meanwhile back here in reality, there is currently nothing that links Tyler Robinson to the Groypers other than baseless conspiracy theories.

Perhaps you don't know what "conspiracy" means. Even if Robinson was inspired by Fuentes and the others who hated Kirk, it he acted on his own, there is no "conspiracy." C'mon.

he facts as they stand as of this posting are that NONE of us know why Robinson did what he did.

At this point, we can only consider the facts. There's no point in getting angry about the facts. They are just the reality. It's too early to say more than what the facts so far tell us. Try to accommodate the reality.

Rational people will wait for solid evidence of his motives before jumping to wild conclusions based only on their preconceived bias and a paucity of what they have convinced themselves is "evidence".

Yep, bit there are lots of not-so-rational people...

Vance says 'left-wing extremism' helped lead to Charlie Kirk's killing​

Trump Blames ‘Horrible’ ‘Radical Left’ In Wake Of Charlie Kirk’s Death​

Stephen Miller blames "terrorist networks" for Kirk's death, stoking MAGA outrage​

I suppose you could make the argument that they aren't stupid, and they are merely using Kirk's killing as an opportunity to avenge themselves on people they hate.

But is that really any better?

 

[Richard T]

Sorry, I was going for sarcasm but failed.

Ok, my bad for being too insensitive to that. God bless you!

 

[probinson]

The aforementioned "evidence":

WHAT ARE TYLER ROBINSON’S ALLEGED TIES TO GROYPERS?​

Law enforcement recovered bullet casings near a rifle they believe was used to fatally shoot Kirk earlier this week, some of which includes symbology suggesting Robinson was part of the Groyper movement, Rachel Kleinfeld, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, told Reuters. There is currently no definitive link between Robinson, Groypers or Fuentes, however. One message read, “O Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Bella ciao, Ciao, ciao!” in an apparent reference to an antifascist anthem sung by Italians after World War II, though some social media users noted a version of the song appears on a Spotify playlist meant for Groypers, the New York Times reported. Others pointed to a Facebook photo in which Robinson appeared to reference a Groyper meme.​

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How Social Media Became The Source Of Mistrust

Today, social media is likely to spread disinformation, deepen political divides, and erode public trust in everything from elections to public health.

www.forbes.com

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Separating Fact From Rumour​

The surge of interest in the term 'what is a Groyper' illustrates how internet culture and politics intersect. The Groyper movement is a recognised far-right faction, and its hostility toward Charlie Kirk is well documented. This background likely contributed to rumours connecting Robinson to the group.​

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However, investigators have not provided evidence that Robinson was a Groyper. Reports highlighting anti-fascist markings at the crime scene point in a different ideological direction. Robinson's inactive voting status and lack of party affiliation further complicate attempts to categorise his political identity.​

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For now, the claim that Tyler Robinson is a Groyper remains unsubstantiated. The speculation reflects how memes and online culture can rapidly shape narratives, especially in high-profile incidents such as the Charlie Kirk shooting.​

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What Is a Groyper? The Truth About Charlie Kirk Shooter Tyler Robinson

What is a Groyper? Inside the far-right meme movement, its ties to Nick Fuentes, and the rumours linking Charlie Kirk shooter Tyler Robinson.

www.ibtimes.co.uk

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[Say it aint so]

Leftist Teacher Showed Charlie Kirk Assassination to Students Over and Over Again, Told Them He Deserved it: Report

A public school teacher showed the assassination of Charlie Kirk multiple times to students as young as 10 years old.

www.westernjournal.com

There have been at least 48 shootings at K-12 schools in 2025 alone with 19 people dead and at least 77 other victims injured.​

There have been 11 school shootings this year that resulted in injuries or deaths, according to an Education Week analysis. There have been 232 such shootings since 2018. There were 39 school shootings with injuries or deaths last year. There were 38 in 2023, 51 in 2022, 35 in 2021, 10 in 2020, and 24 each in 2019 and 2018.​

Kids are being exposed to seeing not just other people, but there fellow classmates shot and killed. I just wish these same people upset and angered about the shooting of Kirk were as half as upset and angered come schools shootings and the sure fire the next school shooting. But they won't. Because after all, in the words of Kirk himself a few negligible deaths of innocents are tolerable for the sake of unfettered access to guns. I would assume he or his family would have never thought he was going to be one of those negligible.

 

[probinson]

There have been at least 48 shootings at K-12 schools in 2025 alone with 19 people dead and at least 77 other victims injured.​

There have been 11 school shootings this year that resulted in injuries or deaths, according to an Education Week analysis. There have been 232 such shootings since 2018. There were 39 school shootings with injuries or deaths last year. There were 38 in 2023, 51 in 2022, 35 in 2021, 10 in 2020, and 24 each in 2019 and 2018.​

Kids are being exposed to seeing not just other people, but there fellow classmates shot and killed. I just wish these same people upset and angered about the shooting of Kirk were as half as upset and angered come schools shootings and the sure fire the next school shooting. But they won't. Because after all, in the words of Kirk himself a few negligible deaths of innocents are tolerable for the sake of unfettered access to guns. I would assume he or his family would have thought he was going to be one of those negligible.

I'm curious. What gun regulation do you think would have prevented the Kirk shooting?

 

[wing2000]

Charlie Kirk's assassination was politically charged. Lot's of those millions publicity thanked and praised the assassin on social media. There's no escape from that for the left. No matter how much they try to gaslight and deflect.

Millions. Rubish.

 

[wing2000]

"...these people ever made."

To date, the FBI has identified one person who was responsible for the killing of Kirk.

There are "these people."

 

[Say it aint so]

I'm curious. What gun regulation do you think would have prevented the Kirk shooting?

"I'm curious. What gun regulation do you think would have prevented the Kirk school shooting?"

Given the 2nd amendment, I am all for the kind of requirements they have in Japan.
You can still own guns, you still have that right, but it's for more regimented.

 

[Servus]

Millions. Rubish.

I said a lot of those millions.

 

[wing2000]

I said a lot of those millions.

"lots of those millions" ....who are you referring to?

 

[Servus]

"I'm curious. What gun regulation do you think would have prevented the Kirk school shooting?"

Given the 2nd amendment, I am all for the kind of requirements they have in Japan.
You can still own guns, you still have that right, but it's for more regimented.

Only in regard to buying a gun from a licensed gun dealer. A lot of guns are obtained though private sales, trades and giveaways.

 

[Servus]

"lots of those millions" ....who are you referring to?

You'll have to go back to the post I was replying to for clarity.

 

[Say it aint so]

Only in regard to buying a gun from a licensed gun dealer. A lot of guns are obtained though private sales, trades and giveaways.

Sorry, not sure your reference here. In Japan? Sounds like you're referring to the US? But then again I am not sure how Japan handles secondary gun transfers.

 

[wing2000]

You'll have to go back to the post I was replying to for clarity.

I already did.

Do you think it’s helpful for the president’s son to further politicize Charlie’s death and try to attach it to millions of people not involved with the crime?

Your answer:

Charlie Kirk's assassination was politically charged. Lot's of those millions publicity thanked and praised the assassin on social media. There's no escape from that for the left. No matter how much they try to gaslight and deflect.

I'll ask again, is it helpful for our country to have the president's son and, yesterday, the Vice President, further politicizing Charlies death?