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MS-13 Gang Member Kilmar Abrego Garcia to be Deported to African Country of Eswatini

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He wasn't let off. His cases never made it to court;
Some confusion there, my friend. He wasn't let off...But he was never charged or taken to court to answer for his 'alleged' crimes. How are you managing to hold these two contradictory positions at the same time?

From here: Attorney general says Kilmar Abrego Garcia was part of international smuggling ring

"Over the past nine years, Abrego Garcia has played a significant role in an alien smuggling ring," Bondi said. "They found this was his full time job, not a contractor. He was a smuggler of humans and children and women."

'During the press conference, Bondi made additional allegations about Abrego Garcia. She said a co-conspirator of Abrego Garcia's claimed he abused undocumented women, that he solicited nude photographs and videos of a minor, and that he "played a role" in the murder of a rival gang member's mother.'

Note that Bondi skipped the 'alleged' part. Although USA Today was legally obliged to add it to their comments.

So, has the defence any comments?

'Yes, your honour. As to the alien smuggling, which was, admittedly, his main occupation, that is a smuggler of women and children, and the abuse of undocumented women, the paedophile charge of obtaining videos of a minor and the main role he played in a woman's murder, I would suggest that a suitable punishment would be to give my client a free flight out of the country and then release him'.

'Agreed. We'll drop all the charges. I mean, we don't want to waste anymore time on this, eh?

If Saul Goodman had proposed the above then the series would have been cancelled immediately for risible and unbelieveable story lines.
 
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All I care about...
Then you don't care about the women he beat, the women and children he trafficked, the child from whom he procured sexual videos and the murder of the mother he was instrumental in murdering. Allegedly.

What a wonderful world.
 
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I thought that I already made it clear...
You made it clear that you disagreed with the previous administration being soft on crime by illegal immigrants. When you've spent I don't know how many posts advocating exactly the same for the current admin.

It's most definitely not acceptable and it's perfectly fine. Both at the same time!

Unbelievable...
 
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He committed the criminal act of entering our country illegally. He was deported.
And completely let off for the extremely serious crimes that Bondi insisted he be charged with. Weren't you just complaining about the last administration doing the same?
 
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Some confusion there, my friend.
Yes, I've seen a pattern of confusion in your assertions.

Bondi is not in charge of deportations. That would be Homan.

Criminal cases can take years to come to trial. In the mean time Homan deported Garcia for his crime of entering the US illegally.
 
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Some on the Left will probably be whining, that this poor criminal was a victim of cruelty, for years to come, while at the same time complaining that the Trump administration let him off easy.
Well, I'll complain every day and twice on a Sunday about not giving anyone due process. But I will also complain that someone you have been told is guilty of people trafficking, assault, paedophilia and murder is not even going to be charged with those offences.

You? You think it's no problem. I can't even accuse you of being soft on crime. You are actually ignoring the crime.
 
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You made it clear that you disagreed with the previous administration being soft on crime by illegal immigrants. When you've spent I don't know how many posts advocating exactly the same for the current admin.

It's most definitely not acceptable and it's perfectly fine. Both at the same time!

Unbelievable...
I thought that I already made it clear that illegal migration has taken a 180 degree turn under this administration. If you see that as equivalency; then I don't know how I can present a logical argument that yo0u would comprehend.

Logical arguments are built on a premise that is an axiom.

If we can't agree on the self evident truth; then using logic is an exercise in futility.
 
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Bondi is not in charge of deportations.
No. She's in charge of justice. The clue is in the name of the department that she runs. She's in charge of making sure that criminals pay the price for their crimes. Oh, except if they're an illegal immigrant. Then they don't have to.
 
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Then you don't care about the women he beat, the women and children he trafficked, the child from whom he procured sexual videos and the murder of the mother he was instrumental in murdering. Allegedly.

What a wonderful world.
Exile is justice enough for me. And I dont think anyone who opposes Trumps immigration policy has the moral authority to lecture me about not caring enough about women and children who are trafficked and become sex victims by drug cartels.
 
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I thought that I already made it clear that illegal migration...
Which is not the subject of this discussion. The subject is how someone can avoid even being charged for serious crimes, including paedophilia, people trafficking women and children and murder simply because they are an illegal immigrant.
 
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No. She's in charge of justice. The clue is in the name of the department that she runs. She's in charge of making sure that criminals pay the price for their crimes. Oh, except if they're an illegal immigrant. Then they don't have to.
Again, immigration cases aren't tried in criminal courts.


We've gone over this ad nausean.
 
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All I care about is that the wife beating gangster is going to be old news as he should have been when he was sent to El Salvador.


“They said, ‘Crime’s down 87 percent.’ I said, no, no, no — it’s more than 87 percent, virtually nothing. And much lesser things, things that take place in the home they call crime. You know, they’ll do anything they can to find something. If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this was a crime. See? So now I can’t claim 100 percent but we are. We are a safe city,” Trump said.

The president’s comments were part of a speech he delivered at the Religious Liberty Commission’s meeting at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C.
 
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Exile is justice enough for me. And I dont think anyone who opposes Trumps immigration policy has the moral authority to lecture me about not caring enough about women and children who are trafficked and become sex victims by drug cartels.
I will certainly accuse anyone who refuses to demand justice for those trafficked women and children, for those sex victims, including children and those murdered women of not caring enough. I will most definitely accuse them of ignoring their plight when they simply and plainly say that the person responsible should just be deported.
 
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I already demonstrated that he was given due process under the law. You might want to review that information again.
He wasn't when he was sent to El Salvador. It's why you had to bring him back. And I'd like to think that if the AG tells you that a man has trafficked women and children, been involved with paedophilia, is a terrorist and was instrumental in a murder that due process might involve actually charging him with those crimes.
 
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Did you bother to read the title of this thread?

Kilmar Abrego Garcia to be Deported​

Yes. Without being charged with extremely serious crimes that your AG has said that he definitely committed.

It's not about illegal immigration or drones.
 
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I will certainly accuse anyone who refuses to demand justice for those trafficked women and children, for those sex victims, including children and those murdered women of not caring enough.
Where were you during the past administration?

What changed?

I reckon I'll book a one way flight to the US. I'll overstay my visa
As a non-US citizen, why such opposition as to how we rid our country of criminals?
 
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“They said, ‘Crime’s down 87 percent.’ I said, no, no, no — it’s more than 87 percent, virtually nothing. And much lesser things, things that take place in the home they call crime. You know, they’ll do anything they can to find something. If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this was a crime. See? So now I can’t claim 100 percent but we are. We are a safe city,” Trump said.​
The president’s comments were part of a speech he delivered at the Religious Liberty Commission’s meeting at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, D.C.​
I fail to see your point.
 
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