I love deep thinking especially God/end times/bible/do something for God anyone that can think deep or INFJ introvert etc here?

[Godcrazy]

Because to a trained eye everything is obvious.

What you consume "oozes" out of you, in some form of another. It can be a behavior, a reaction, a method, a pattern. Even if you control your speech, or actions, involuntary ones still occurs, and offers an itinerary of everything you did or do. It cannot be prevented.

You would have known this, if you were a deep thinker.

the micro expressions are the more important ones. reveals ones true thoughts and feelings.

 

[Godcrazy]

the judging others too harsh too soon too much is a problem I think. the ones that do not fit the mould. no attempt rarely to reach down and find out why or think deeper about it, like why is it I do not understand or react this way. rare.

 

[bèlla]

the judging others too harsh too soon too much is a problem I think. the ones that do not fit the mould. no attempt rarely to reach down and find out why or think deeper about it, like why is it I do not understand or react this way. rare.

Why is the onus on the hearer to do what you’ve said? If you’re not easily understood (or prone to being misjudged) the obvious solution is learning to communicate in a manner others can grasp. Why must they do the work?

I don’t personally buy the deep thinker term. I think the majority are socially awkward or something along those lines and have difficulty forming connections. Deep thinking doesn’t equal isolation or anti social behavior and I’ve known my share. One was the former evangelist for Apple and a well regarded thought leader. Another is emerging in the Ai space. He’s Ivy trained and worked at several schools within that group. Neither are loners and do their share of public speaking.

I think the label was co-opted on the internet to describe behaviors outside the norm. And society loves new ideas. When you’re able to discuss subjects in depth and contemplate new approaches or solutions you attract an audience. That’s why a lot of them end up on a stage or platform.

And that’s the litmus test for the quality. Anyone could spend hours in their head and it isn’t hard. It’s called escape. But bringing those thoughts to life and sharing them with the world is your test. If they don’t resonate with others that’s probably a sign they’re not as impactful as you assume.

~bella

 

[Aseyesee]

the judging others too harsh too soon too much is a problem I think. the ones that do not fit the mould. no attempt rarely to reach down and find out why or think deeper about it, like why is it I do not understand or react this way. rare.

We should judge all things, just not after the flesh ...

 

[GTW27]

It has been said, the spiritual man judges all things. What is not said, is that, that man speaks to impress. Sometimes when we look to go deeper the enemy is there to takes us there. We are to test all things and in this case to see where The Glory will go, as all Glory Honor Praise belong to The Lord and The Lord alone. Blessings!

 

[prudent_commenter]

We should judge all things, just not after the flesh ...

I agree with this. If you can detach yourself from earthly matters, only then can you judge. But to do that you must not be involved, and that is hard to do.

 

[Aseyesee]

I agree with this. If you can detach yourself from earthly matters, only then can you judge. But to do that you must not be involved, and that is hard to do.

Detaching yourself from earthly matters is a perquisite for being drawn in to a deeper relationship with God … though our whole soul is the true price of this …

 

[Godcrazy]

Detaching yourself from earthly matters is a perquisite for being drawn in to a deeper relationship with God … though our whole soul is the true price of this …

But then we come in on the problem of little talk about repentance and sin generally. And how it leaves a void, makes room for all the negative things and sins. I think that is why we see more of it. More self, more materialism etc. as well there is rejection and not wanting to talk about spiritual warfare and the fact we are in it, wether we want to or not, and the whole supernatural. which the exorcist Fr Rippberger said majority of church rejects or do not want to hear about and continues christianity is by large supernatural and spiritual warfare. and the occultists that put hours on prayers while the church not even ten minutes. I am describing why we have a problem. we can do it.

 

[Godcrazy]

It has been said, the spiritual man judges all things. What is not said, is that, that man speaks to impress. Sometimes when we look to go deeper the enemy is there to takes us there. We are to test all things and in this case to see where The Glory will go, as all Glory Honor Praise belong to The Lord and The Lord alone. Blessings!

well, I am listening to exorcists talking as they have a lot of knowledge, and information and they came in on how the enemy tempts and the tactics. How God allows evil to tempt us or send negative experiences so we shall learn and grow, develop discipline and by that get a form of holiness and grace even more than if we just had battled by our own. It was very interesting. I have not heard that in the church ever. But it seems to be very relevant.

 

[Godcrazy]

We should judge all things, just not after the flesh ...

so we have to make sure we do not have a speck before that

 

[Godcrazy]

We should judge all things, just not after the flesh ...

I`m more of a help each other approach than a you do this wrong approach. It`s so typical me very empathetic person

 

[Godcrazy]

Why is the onus on the hearer to do what you’ve said? If you’re not easily understood (or prone to being misjudged) the obvious solution is learning to communicate in a manner others can grasp. Why must they do the work?

I don’t personally buy the deep thinker term. I think the majority are socially awkward or something along those lines and have difficulty forming connections. Deep thinking doesn’t equal isolation or anti social behavior and I’ve known my share. One was the former evangelist for Apple and a well regarded thought leader. Another is emerging in the Ai space. He’s Ivy trained and worked at several schools within that group. Neither are loners and do their share of public speaking.

I think the label was co-opted on the internet to describe behaviors outside the norm. And society loves new ideas. When you’re able to discuss subjects in depth and contemplate new approaches or solutions you attract an audience. That’s why a lot of them end up on a stage or platform.

And that’s the litmus test for the quality. Anyone could spend hours in their head and it isn’t hard. It’s called escape. But bringing those thoughts to life and sharing them with the world is your test. If they don’t resonate with others that’s probably a sign they’re not as impactful as you assume.

~bella

truth is most do not take the time or have patience or even ability to understand enough(lack of knowledge or not even wanting to go there) to even try to make room for others that do not think like themselves. we see that all over the society. but, people do work differently and process differently. we can`t expect everyone to work the same. there is the superficial crowd, the chit chat crowd, the I do not want to think crowd, and then there is the other. you can see that everywhere you go, if you talk to them or hear them talk. it is not all that have the want or ability to dig deeper, or not even accept if you are not like them off the bat. this is a sad reality. you cannot even start "communicate better " or what ever else with them. why because they are closed.

 

[Godcrazy]

Why is the onus on the hearer to do what you’ve said? If you’re not easily understood (or prone to being misjudged) the obvious solution is learning to communicate in a manner others can grasp. Why must they do the work?

I don’t personally buy the deep thinker term. I think the majority are socially awkward or something along those lines and have difficulty forming connections. Deep thinking doesn’t equal isolation or anti social behavior and I’ve known my share. One was the former evangelist for Apple and a well regarded thought leader. Another is emerging in the Ai space. He’s Ivy trained and worked at several schools within that group. Neither are loners and do their share of public speaking.

I think the label was co-opted on the internet to describe behaviors outside the norm. And society loves new ideas. When you’re able to discuss subjects in depth and contemplate new approaches or solutions you attract an audience. That’s why a lot of them end up on a stage or platform.

And that’s the litmus test for the quality. Anyone could spend hours in their head and it isn’t hard. It’s called escape. But bringing those thoughts to life and sharing them with the world is your test. If they don’t resonate with others that’s probably a sign they’re not as impactful as you assume.

~bella

it is not as much as communicate better etc because everyone should accept others how they are like, and not prejudge. more a open mind make room for others. you cannot change that with better communication. if they have decided not to. you are getting nowhere. also one should not bend like a pretzel to fit another person.

 

[bèlla]

truth is most do not take the time or have patience or even ability to understand enough(lack of knowledge or not even wanting to go there) to even try to make room for others that do not think like themselves. we see that all over the society. but, people do work differently and process differently. we can`t expect everyone to work the same. there is the superficial crowd, the chit chat crowd, the I do not want to think crowd, and then there is the other. you can see that everywhere you go, if you talk to them or hear them talk. it is not all that have the want or ability to dig deeper, or not even accept if you are not like them off the bat. this is a sad reality. you cannot even start "communicate better " or what ever else with them. why because they are closed.

No one has to make time for anyone or hear them out. This is a lesson we learn as children. Some people desire our company and others don’t. We’re encouraged to focus on the positive connections and accept the limitations for the rest.

Nevertheless, your response remains one-sided. You mention their lack of time, patience, making room for others and so on. All of which requires accommodation. Your reply offers no give and take or a willingness to meet the one you speak of where they are. They’re the only one bending. And if that‘s the mindset it isn’t surprising the person will come up short.

I’m reminded of someone I watch on YouTube who’s deaf. He speaks pretty well and I love his personality. He’s a high end photographer and gets incredible assignments and brings the audience along. What I appreciate most is that he’s not his malady. He doesn’t ask us to understand or be patient with him at all.

He does his thing and if we like it we subscribe and if we don’t that’s fine. That’s a quality you find in people anointed for public facing roles. You don’t expend your energy on wanting to be liked and accepted or worrying what people think when you mature. You’re comfortable in your own skin.

~bella

 

[Godcrazy]

No one has to make time for anyone or hear them out. This is a lesson we learn as children. Some people desire our company and others don’t. We’re encouraged to focus on the positive connections and accept the limitations for the rest.

Nevertheless, your response remains one-sided. You mention their lack of time, patience, making room for others and so on. All of which requires accommodation. Your reply offers no give and take or a willingness to meet the one you speak of where they are. They’re the only one bending. And if that‘s the mindset it isn’t surprising the person will come up short.

I’m reminded of someone I watch on YouTube who’s deaf. He speaks pretty well and I love his personality. He’s a high end photographer and gets incredible assignments and brings the audience along. What I appreciate most is that he’s not his malady. He doesn’t ask us to understand or be patient with him at all.

He does his thing and if we like it we subscribe and if we don’t that’s fine. That’s a quality you find in people anointed for public facing roles. You don’t expend your energy on wanting to be liked and accepted or worrying what people think when you mature. You’re comfortable in your own skin.

~bella

Actually ,as christians, we should be open and inclusive especially to anyone, mind, not taking after or agree with wrong doing. But make an effort to include everyone. It is "the way of the world" not Christ anything else.

all I have been saying is EVERYONE meeting half way. I have yet come across few.
that`s all.
I mean more if we talk to someone directly,physically. Is it not sad if we can`t be open and accepting towards those that does not think like us?

 

[Michie]

Actually ,as christians, we should be open and inclusive especially to anyone, mind, not taking after or agree with wrong doing. But make an effort to include everyone. It is "the way of the world" not Christ anything else.

all I have been saying is EVERYONE meeting half way. I have yet come across few.
that`s all.
I mean more if we talk to someone directly,physically. Is it not sad if we can`t be open and accepting towards those that does not think like us?

Yet you seem to have a problem with people that socialize and chit chat for the pure joy of being in one another’s company. You even called them superficial. Not everything is a bottomless pit of deep discussion or navel gazing. As you said, we are all different and the true gift is in enjoying those differences. Not everyone is called to the same vocations, we all have different gifts but those vocations and gifts do not keep us prisoner and make us look down our noses at others as if we are setting our own personal caste system. Jesus is our foundation. Not us.

 

[Godcrazy]

Yet you seem to have a problem with people that socialize and chit chat for the pure joy of being in one another’s company. You even called them superficial. Not everything is a bottomless pit of deep discussion or navel gazing. As you said, we are all different and the true gift is in enjoying those differences. Not everyone is called to the same vocations, we all have different gifts but those vocations and gifts do not keep us prisoner and make us look down our noses at others as if we are setting our own personal caste system. Jesus is our foundation. Not us.

that is not what i am saying. what i am saying is, inclusiveness and acceptance

 

[Aseyesee]

But then we come in on the problem of little talk about repentance and sin generally. And how it leaves a void, makes room for all the negative things and sins. I think that is why we see more of it. More self, more materialism etc. as well there is rejection and not wanting to talk about spiritual warfare and the fact we are in it, wether we want to or not, and the whole supernatural. which the exorcist Fr Rippberger said majority of church rejects or do not want to hear about and continues christianity is by large supernatural and spiritual warfare. and the occultists that put hours on prayers while the church not even ten minutes. I am describing why we have a problem. we can do it.

To the left or right of the cross is a thief ... it is a way of viewing the whole ...

 

[bèlla]

Actually ,as christians, we should be open and inclusive especially to anyone, mind, not taking after or agree with wrong doing. But make an effort to include everyone. It is "the way of the world" not Christ anything else.

I think you’re blind to your biases and assume you’re accepting when your comments say otherwise when discussing others. For example, your opinions on discourse and what you perceive as true believers. You mention tolerance frequently but a lot of it is in response to your experiences with believers who didn’t embrace your gifts or welcome the prophecies or conversations on spiritual warfare and the like.

I’ll be perfectly honest. I’m not into prophecies or the sort of person you can tell the Lord said this about you. I won’t believe it and will rebuke the message and pray against it and He knows it. I don’t have difficulty hearing from the Lord and don’t seek a word from other people. I go to the Source instead.

When it comes to spiritual warfare I’m very adept but it isn’t part of my conversation very often. I’m not enamored with the devil and what he’s doing and his minions. I devote my attention to things that raise my spirit and increase my frequency. That’s a low vibration subject and the more you focus on it the more spiritual fuel you need.

But there’s people who welcome it and those are your kindred spirits. We don’t have to like the same things. It’s okay to say you’re not interested and we have to respect their boundaries.

You mentioned the enneagram earlier but I believe it isn’t real. It’s a parlor game much like the other personality tests. You may see some similarities but applying the label to yourself has spiritual consequences and you’re aligning your destiny to the thing behind it. When you understand your identity on a higher level you don’t diminish your star. But you may think I’m wrong and it’s okay. It doesn’t bother me.

~bella

 

[Aseyesee]

I`m more of a help each other approach than a you do this wrong approach. It`s so typical me very empathetic person

Judgment to me isn't an accusation ...