Trump Orders Flags to Half-Staff for Charlie Kirk

[Chesterton]

"very important influence for positve good".
You agreed with him.
That's it.

It doesn't make him a saint. It doesn't make him good. You agreed with him.

That's it. There was nothing special about him. He's just another right wing Rush Limbaugh type.

Your logic has a non sequitur. It's like "The fact that Chesterton likes bananas proves there's nothing special about bananas".

 

[iluvatar5150]

But Kirk is not being honored for being assassinated.

The assassination is certainly a big part of it. He wasn't in line for this honor a couple days ago, was he?

 

[Postvieww]

What was inaccurate about it?

he doesn't deserve to be remember as much of anything but a political provocateur

A very inaccurate portrayal of Charlie who was well known for civil discourse with those who disagreed with him.

that traded in spectacle and outrage.

Again an inaccurate portrayal of his events . If there was outrage it was from those that mistakenly thought they were smarter and could not deal with his factual debate.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Wasn’t there something else that happened on this date a while back?

Nothing comes to mind.

 

[Chesterton]

The assassination is certainly a big part of it. He wasn't in line for this honor a couple days ago, was he?

AFAIK, flags aren't flown at half staff for the living.

 

[iluvatar5150]

AFAIK, flags aren't flown at half staff for the living.

I got mixed up. I thought we were talking about the medal of freedom.

 

[Desk trauma]

Nothing comes to mind.

Some guys building became the tallest in manhattan I think?

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

I was wondering why I was seeing so many flags at half-staff today.

Hopefully for the kids , that shot yesterday. But I doubt it.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Wasn’t there something else that happened on this date a while back?

I can’t seem to remember.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Some guys building became the tallest in manhattan I think?

Wait, was that the same guy who saw a giant street party of people celebrating in New Jersey?

 

[prodromos]

For a guy who believed guns were more important than innocent children's lives?

That is not what he believed. That is how the left frames his comments, which is what we've come to expect of the left. I posted his quote in the other (locked) thread. The person interviewing him was obviously trying to tie his comments to the children who had been shot, but it is not what Charlie said.

What a vile, evil country America is.

I'm currently visiting America. It is a beautiful country with beautiful people.

 

[Desk trauma]

Wait, was that the same guy who saw a giant street party of people celebrating in New Jersey?

Couldn’t be.

 

[NxNW]

That is not what he believed. That is how the left frames his comments, which is what we've come to expect of the left. I posted his quote in the other (locked) thread. The person interviewing him was obviously trying to tie his comments to the children who had been shot, but it is not what Charlie said.

"Some deaths" isn't limited to 18+, so clearly he meant children too.

 

[Vambram]

My tendency, when I try to figure how connected to Christ someone may be (though it tends not to be my place to judge this), I think of what we are called to: I look for Fruits of the Spirit. It's about the simpliest way.

What are his fruits?
Love, joy , peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control are the fruits of the spirit.
Given that he's a "media personality" it's kinda tough to get a sense of what kinda person he really, truly was his with family and friends and loved ones. Of course "how hard is it to say I love my friend"....
Regardless, I'm not sure how any of those fruits fit into his media persona. But admittedly, I don't watch him as often as others....

To think that you define a christian by how many "left wing libs" disagree..... do you see the lack of biblical bases that has?

Liberals attacked his faith. However, every time that I listened to his podcasts and watched him on college campuses, I saw him boldly testifying of the Lord God. I saw and heard strong faith in God from Charlie Kirk all the time. He is far more than a "media personality."

 

[ralliann]

You just can't help yourself. Have to continue insulting him by comparing the great Kirk to some state rep. no one had ever heard of. Anyway, he's to be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, so that's nice.

It is an attempt to spur anger. It is what some want. Ignore them.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Liberals attacked his faith.

We did? Where? Here on CF?

 

[Vambram]

We did? Where? Here on CF?

No

 

[Tropical Wilds]

...a media personality, murdered in an presumably political attack:

Honoring the Memory of Charlie Kirk

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A PROCLAMATION As a mark of respect for the memory of Charlie Kirk, by the authority vested in me as

www.whitehouse.gov

but not for Melissa Hortman, an elected official, murdered in a separate political attack:
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All to be expected. Has he remarked on the school shootings yet?

My new mantra is “it’s only 3 more years.”

 

[Servus]

Hopefully there will be more things to come regarding Charlie Kirk's murder that will upset the left.

 

[rjs330]

It makes me sad and quite worried. I think it's pretty messed up that he was shot in front of his loved ones and family.

This is what scares me from the left. That you would put it this way clearly shows what's in your heart. You should have said, "I think its pretty messed up that he was assassinated", and left it at that.

This statement along with your statements regarding rhe shooting of the Healthcare CEO, is clearly a support of the philosophy that violence is rhe corrective for any perceived injustices.

THIS is what the left is becoming.

This president is so partisan he shouldn't be leading anything. And the idea that anyone is expecting people to come together under this leadership shows an utter lack of self reflection on their own behaviours.

The great divider was Obama. It started under his administration as the left went full speed into the great conspiracy of the great injustices. And now we have seen with the trans shooters, the shooting of the CEO and now Charlie.

The dominate dividing injustice conspiracies regarding:
1. The racial division including the injustice theory of white supremacy and systemic racism perpetuated by white people to oppress BIPOC people even to this day.
2. The the working class suppression theory of Marxism that the economy has been rigged to perpetuate the oppression of the working class.
3. The heteronormative oppression theory that the system is being used to facistically enforce traditional sexual mores and that rhe power is being used to oppress anyone who isn't heteronormative.
4. The oppression theory that our country is an imperialist colonialist country that was built upon and continues to strive to oppress based upon white western colonialism.

And the answer to all that oppression is to morally praise all violent reaction to those perceived injustices justices. We have seen it in these posts and in the leftist media.

No Trump is not going to unite our country because he cannot do so. Its an impossibility to unite with those who espouse such venom upon us. There is nothing he can to except call for civility which the left has now abandoned. This is something those on the left have to do among themselves. It is not anything a president can accomplish in the face of such radicalism. No man can accomplish this because the left perceives any and all opposition to their injustice theories as evidence of injustice and oppression. Until the left itself begins to realize what their radicalism has wrought nothing will change.