Charlie Kirk has Been Shot at Utah Valley University

[RileyG]

What happened is tragic and shocking, but assassinations have taken place for centuries. And before bullets there were arrows.

Yup. Ever seen Braveheart? Lots of death and no guns. People used other weapons to destroy lives. It’s tragic!

 

[Vambram]

Now, whenever I think about Charlie Kirk there is a passage of the Bible that comes to my mind.

2 Timothy 4:7-8

 

[Lost4words]

RIP Charlie. A very sad day indeed....

 

[A New Dawn]

No apology for the comrade remark to me? Noice.

FWIW, I deleted that post myself before the thread was shut down, but my response to you saying I deleted it was deleted, for some reason, in the clean up.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Yup. Ever seen Braveheart? Lots of death and no guns. People used other weapons to destroy lives. It’s tragic!

The theme that's common (between those early days and now), is that the one who draw that type of reaction are the ones seen to be the "most difficult" and who have "the ear of the people"

It's not even who says the "most nasty things"

The people who are chalking it up to "Charlie said hateful things, and thus, drew hate" are missing the mark on that one.

It seems like it's more of a "they make a compelling enough argument that we can't easily refute with a bumper sticker rebuttal, grrr. that makes us furious, therefore we need to portray them as the moral enemy of all the principles we hold dear"


Ultimately (and this isn't to cheapen or diminish what happened), it's a sign of intellectual laziness -- which breeds violence.

"I don't want to take the time to think of a constructive reply, I just want people to go along with my way, and I don't want to have to put effort into it, therefore, it's time to take a shortcut"

 

[MrMoe]

I’ll just post this wholesome moment here to remember the good times.

 

[Nithavela]

This isn’t about right or left. A 31 year old man just lost his life. His wife is widowed and his children are fatherless and orphans by the bible’s standards. Can we please set aside our finger-pointing for a moment?

And while you do pray for the three teens who were shot at a high school as we speak. This is a terrible day for the innocent.

~bella

Children regularly get slaughtered in america's schools and threads about those events turn into predictable political posturing on page one. Why should this be any different?

 

[durangodawood]

Children regularly get slaughtered in america's schools and threads about those events turn into predictable political posturing on page one. Why should this be any different?

American children are shot to death quite regularly in school or even church.... But now a line has been crossed.

 

[Chesterton]

Ultimately (and this isn't to cheapen or diminish what happened), it's a sign of intellectual laziness -- which breeds violence.

It's not laziness so much as just inability. They're incapable of supporting their bad ideas with reasoning.

 

[A New Dawn]

American children are shot to death quite regularly in school or even church.... But now a line has been crossed.

Why is this even a post? It’s patently ridiculous.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Lacking empathy, and realizing you were wrong about something you previously believed, are two different things.

I never said otherwise, which is why I think you saw me say I have empathy and confused it for me saying I have apathy.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

MSNBC OUTDOES ITSELF!

In some truly Pulitzer Prize deserving reporting, we learn that:

1. the shooter may have been a Kirk supporter firing off a gun in happy celebration of Kirk being there;

2. Trump may use this assassination as justification for sending troops into Orem, Utah as he did in D.C.; and

3. if you have awful thoughts and express them with awful words you should expect awful actions.

What’s the article title on MSNBC so we can read it, for those of us who don’t click random links…

 

[Tropical Wilds]

FWIW, I deleted that post myself before the thread was shut down, but my response to you saying I deleted it was deleted, for some reason, in the clean up.

I saw it, but couldn’t reply. Thanks for the followup.

 

[durangodawood]

Why is this even a post? It’s patently ridiculous.

It's what I've observed. That's why it's a post.

Although, I wouldn't be too surprised if you're correct and after a few news cycles people move on as if it was just another day in America.

 

[Chesterton]

What’s the article title on MSNBC so we can read it, for those of us who don’t click random links…

MSNBC is a television channel.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Children regularly get slaughtered in america's schools and threads about those events turn into predictable political posturing on page one. Why should this be any different?

I will say the remarks on this thread are entirely different on the (now buried) school shooting thread from a few weeks ago. Read the first pages of that to this, I’m shocked by the people rattled by this who were able to skip on over the dead kids to espouse their anti-gun control ideology. Some of it I think is the shock of seeing it play out on video, but…

 

[Tropical Wilds]

MSNBC is a television channel.

I am aware. They have a website they share their content on, so what’s the name of the article? Or is that just a link to a site run by whomever for an editorial critiquing something on MSNBC?

 

[Chesterton]

I am aware. They have a website they share their content on, so what’s the name of the article? Or is that just a link to a site run by whomever for an editorial critiquing something on MSNBC?

I doubt that they provide text transcripts of every segment they air. If you find it on their website you'd still have to click a "random" link.

 

[stevevw]

I was at work and someone told me. They mentioned Charlie was shot and killed and I could not believe it. I was shocked. Unbelievable.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Charlie Kirk says gun deaths "unfortunately" worth it to ...

The conservative founder of Turning Point USA made the comments following a mass shooting in Nashville last week that resulted in six deaths.

www.newsweek.com

So according to him, it should happen in order to keep the guns. Did he think he was exempt from who it should happen to?

This tragedy has nothing to do with guns - but people feeling justified in committing acts of violence and murder due to nothing but disagreement.

What you said is truly vile. You need Jesus.