Liberal media accused of covering up Ukrainian girl's brutal murder in Dem-led city as video explodes online

[MrMoe]

Since he was apprehended I don’t see how his race is a relevant factor to focus on unless you want to make this about race.

It should be obvious. Because this murder might be potentially racially motivated.

 

[MrMoe]

No, they also get to paint black people as inherently violent.

Who is “they”?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

It should be obvious. Because this murder might be potentially racially motivated.

Maybe.

Or maybe he’s just a crazy guy looking for an easy target and this was going to happen to anyone. He does have a history of mental illness. Does he have a known history of racially motivated crimes?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Who is “they”?

People focusing on the race instead of the crime. Not every black on white crime is racially motivated. What’s the evidence this one was other than he’s black, she’s white?

 

[MrMoe]

Maybe.

Or maybe he’s just a crazy guy looking for an easy target and this was going to happen to anyone. He does have a history of mental illness. Does he have a known history of racially motivated crimes?

Maybe he is a mentally ill racist. Mental illness and racism are not mutually exclusive. Maybe we’ll find out his true motives someday.

 

[MrMoe]

People focusing on the race instead of the crime.

Looks like people are focusing on the race AND the crime to me.

Not every black on white crime is racially motivated.

I haven’t seen anyone make the claim that every black on white crime is racially motivated here.

What’s the evidence this one was other than he’s black, she’s white?

I asked myself a similar question during the Daniel Penny and Derek Chauvin incidents. What’s the evidence this one was racially motivated other than he’s white and he’s black?

I’m sure you had the same issue with those incidents too.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Looks like people are focusing on the race AND the crime to me.

I haven’t seen anyone make the claim that every black on white crime is racially motivated here.

Right, I didn’t say that. I said there’s no evidence this was racially motivated other than the races involved. You’re the one saying it was driven by race.

Why, what evidence is there?

I asked myself a similar question during the Daniel Penny and Derek Chauvin incidents. What’s the evidence this one was racially motivated other than he’s white and he’s black?

I’m sure you had the same issue with those incidents too.

My issue with Chauvin was that he choked a man to death while he was already restrained and lying on the ground, not a threat to anyone. My issue with Penny was never the racial aspect either but the vigilantism. He took it upon himself to be judge, jury and executioner.

By the sound of it, it’s you that’s been focused solely on race in each of these cases.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Maybe he is a mentally ill racist. Mental illness and racism are not mutually exclusive. Maybe we’ll find out his true motives someday.

I see no evidence that he’s a racist. Tell me why you think he is.

 

[rjs330]

If you're so concerned about preventing crime, where is your side's plan for dealing with severe mental illness?

My thoughts on this are well documented. I know what I would do.

What is your proposal for how that bogus phone call charge 9 months ago should have been treated?

He should gave been placed in an institution. He wasn't safe to be on the street. He's proven that. The judge was a liberal and let him go resulting in the death of this woman.

Where is your outrage in this other thread about a guy let off from a felony gun charge who would have been in jail had he been convicted of it?

I didnt see that thread. I will post on it.

Or is all of this merely a pretext for you guys to hypocritically complain about Dems being soft on crime?

Pretext? Lol, noting how Democrats are typically soft on crime is a fact, not a pretext.

 

[rjs330]

Usually race is listed when there’s a fugitive on the run so people can help identify them. Since he was apprehended I don’t see how his race is a relevant factor to focus on unless you want to make this about race.

Thats incorrect. In news reporting race is only mentioned if its white on black. If its black on white the news is far too often silent on the race. They will use all kinds of other words to avoid noting tge race. If its white on black, race is ALWAYS at the forefront.

 

[rjs330]

No, they also get to paint black people as inherently violent.

I dont know if tgey are inherently violent or not. But you do have about 5% of the population committing 50% of the violent crime. While its true that the majority of victims of crime are victimized by their own race, white people are far more likely to be victims of black offenders that the other way around.

Those are just facts. In the case at hand i have zero idea if that man chose that woman because she was white or not. I simply note that in most black on white crimes the race is typically left out of tge story.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Both of which were 5-10 years ago.

…for making a bogus phone call.

He has a serious mental disorder and he has been violent in the past and brandished a weapon...yes lets release him...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Maybe.

Or maybe he’s just a crazy guy looking for an easy target and this was going to happen to anyone. He does have a history of mental illness. Does he have a known history of racially motivated crimes?

Who knows, he has a very serious mental disorder. Was he being treated? There were people sitting all around her but he picked her for some reason...

 

[johansen]

There were people sitting all around her but he picked her for some reason

Satan hates women and children. Violence against them is the fastest way to reduce the birth rate.

 

[rjs330]

This poor girl. She was just sitting innocently on the train like any one of us would do. And she's dead. This wasnt done with a gun, but up close with a knife. She was here naking a life for herself and taking advantage of opportunities here. And some deranged EVIL man who was loose on tge street robbed her from her future. Her poor family. This has got to stop. We have got to do lock these people away.

 

[MrMoe]

Right, I didn’t say that. I said there’s no evidence this was racially motivated other than the races involved. You’re the one saying it was driven by race.

Why, what evidence is there?

I never made the claim that is was. I’m saying it’s a possible motive.

My issue with Chauvin was that he choked a man to death while he was already restrained and lying on the ground, not a threat to anyone. My issue with Penny was never the racial aspect either but the vigilantism. He took it upon himself to be judge, jury and executioner.

By the sound of it, it’s you that’s been focused solely on race in each of these cases.

Actually it was the left who made race the focus despite being no evidence of racism in either instance. So if you don’t have a problem with race being brought up in those incidents you shouldn’t have a problem with race being Brought up in this incident.

 

[MrMoe]

I see no evidence that he’s a racist. Tell me why you think he is.

I don’t know if it is but it’s a possibility. You seem almost upset that it’s even being considered as a possibility. Why?

 

[MehGuy]

Seeing images and videos on X... This attack is pretty heartbreaking. Been on my mind all day today.

According to the family he has schizophrenia and is legitimately out of his mind. Some people who listened to the audio claims he muttered something about getting that white girl.

Man... This and the recent Charlie Kirk shooting.. I wonder if things will ever be quite the same again.

Not sure about anyone here.. but I feel like I need a break from the news. I am so emotionally drained.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Ukrainian lives matter unless Russia is killing them.

Trump is negotiating peace and hopefully he will lock up all the mentally ill drug-addled vagrant career criminals.

 

[7thKeeper]

I dont know if tgey are inherently violent or not. But you do have about 5% of the population committing 50% of the violent crime.

It doesn't help your case when you start pulling numbers out of thin air.

He has a serious mental disorder and he has been violent in the past and brandished a weapon...yes lets release him...

What does the law say? I highly doubt the court has the power force people into care just willy nilly. I don't remember from this thread if the call was a felony or a misdemeanor case, but I doubt the court has the power to do that unless there was violance in THIS case. They can't convict or do something solely based on previous cases, it has to be relevant to what's in front of them at the moment.