The Criminal Records of the illegal immigrants arrested in LA

[DaisyDay]

So the fear of deportation is a deterrent against illegal immigrants committing crimes. Awesome. Even more incentive to not be soft on illegal immigration.

It's one thing to be not soft, but another to be harsh and cruel.

 

[BCP1928]

So the fear of deportation is a deterrent against illegal immigrants committing crimes. Awesome. Even more incentive to not be soft on illegal immigration.

It always has been.

 

[Always in His Presence]

“These heinous criminals, including child abusers and pedophiles, are some of the illegal aliens arrested yesterday in Los Angeles. Why do Governor Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass care more about violent criminal illegal aliens than they do about protecting their own citizens?” said Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin. “These rioters in Los Angeles are fighting to keep rapists, murderers, and other violent criminals loose on Los Angeles streets. Instead of rioting, they should be thanking ICE officers who every single day wake up and make our communities safer.”

QFT

 

[Oompa Loompa]

It's one thing to be not soft, but another to be harsh and cruel.

Tell a victim's family that the pedophile is being treated too harsh and cruel.

 

[rambot]

I'm amazed that you appear to be labeling the rioters as demonstrators.

Well, some people label ICE as a legally behaving police force....

 

[Hentenza]

Well, some people label ICE as a legally behaving police force....

How is ICE an illegal police force?

 

[rambot]

Would you mind sharing exactly, what percentage of the 100s of illegal immigrants, pouring daily into our country, would be an acceptable amount of those committing heinous crimes, “before“ you feel it would be justified for action to be taken? Maybe 50%, 60% or 75%? What type of heinous crimes do you deem unacceptable/acceptable? What part of “illegal immigrants” …?

Good grief …

There are already criminals among you. Why deal with criminals differently?
Leviticus 19:33-34
Zechariah 7:9
Matthew 25:35
Leviticus 24:22

The argument is that you should welcome all foreigners. No, before you get silly, obviously the Bible does not say to allow foreigners to commit crimes against you.
When they commit crimes there is no suggestion to not deal with that.
You don't need to terrorize the families by arresting people after they come out of immigration hearings. That doesn't HAVE TO be done.

Tongue-in-cheek alert:
Why don’t you head to L.A. and invite some of these poor mistreated, upright, outstanding human beings to dinner and give them a tour of your house? Let them know they have a place to crash until they can get on their feet and eventually become model citizens. You know. Lead by example ample …

Hebrew 13:2
Matthew 22:1-14

You're the richest country in the world and the richest people have convinced too many of the middlest Americans that the poorest Americans are their real enemy.

 

[rambot]

How is ICE an illegal police force?

I don't htink I said illegal...I said "behaving".

Not having badge numbers or names and hiding their faces.

Not really interested in a "well that's because..." answer. That doesn't make it legal. Police officers have had to deal with that always....why can't ICE?

 

[Hentenza]

I don't htink I said illegal...I said "behaving".

You know what you insinuated.

Not having badge numbers or names and hiding their faces.

I guess all undercover cops fit your “behaving” criteria.

Not really interested in a "well that's because..." answer. That doesn't make it legal. Police officers have had to deal with that always....why can't ICE?

Deal with what? Illegal immigrants? Criminals?

 

[rambot]

You know what you insinuated.

I swear to you, if I would have meant to say illegal force I would have done so. You're trying to create a strawman.

I guess all undercover cops fit your “behaving” criteria.

I guess you're not great at making comparisons.

Deal with what? Illegal immigrants? Criminals?

ICE agents being unable and/or to deal with their faces and badge numbers being shown. That is not a police force.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I guess all undercover cops fit your “behaving” criteria.

Undercover police aren’t going around in vans snatching people off the street or from their worksites without cause or warrant.

 

[Hentenza]

I swear to you, if I would have meant to say illegal force I would have done so. You're trying to create a strawman.

Ok then maybe make your post a bit clearer?

I guess you're not great at making comparisons.


ICE agents being unable and/or to deal with their faces and badge numbers being shown. That is not a police force.

Again, undercover cops do this every day. They cover their faces and don’t have their badges showing otherwise they would no longer be undercover. Similarly ICE does not want the exposure in particular given the treats of doxing them and their families by rabid activists. I don’t blame ICE agents from doing their jobs and they have been put in an unenviable position by an administration that talks out of both sides of their mouth.

 

[Hentenza]

Undercover police aren’t going around in vans snatching people off the street or from their worksites without cause or warrant.

And? They have the legal right whether you agree with it or not.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

And?

And that’s it. That’s what they’re doing that sets them apart from normal police. They’re acting more like a secret police like you saw in the USSR or Argentina under the military dictatorship.

 

[Hentenza]

And that’s it. That’s what they’re doing that sets them apart from normal police.

I explained that they have the legal right but you ignored that.

They’re acting more like a secret police like you saw in the USSR or Argentina under the military dictatorship.

Just in case fallacy.

 

[rambot]

Ok then maybe make your post a bit clearer?

Not trying to be pedantic but could you make a suggestion of how I could have been more clear with that single sentence post?

Again, undercover cops do this every day. They cover their faces and don’t have their badges showing otherwise they would no longer be undercover.

I have a hard time understanding why you'd conflate "undercover cops" with "ICE Agents" as if the policework they always do is completely similar.

Similarly ICE does not want the exposure in particular given the treats of doxing them and their families by rabid activists. I don’t blame ICE agents from doing their jobs and they have been put in an unenviable position by an administration that talks out of both sides of their mouth.

Police officers deal with this worry all the time. Why can't ICE agents?
THESE are the two policing bodies (those individuals arresting people) that should be compared for the work they do.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I explained that they have the legal right but you ignored that.

That’s right, I did.

Police abuse their legal powers all the time and ICE agents are no different except far less professional and far less accountable to the public they serve.

Just in case fallacy.

Keep ignoring the many parallels from history.

 

[Hentenza]

That’s right, I did.

Police abuse their legal powers all the time and ICE agents are no different except far less professional and far less accountable to the public they serve.

Your opinion then.

Keep ignoring the many parallels from history.

There are parallels in history but nothing here points to the likely outcome, hence just in case fallacy.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Well, some people label ICE as a legally behaving police force....

Well...because they are. Say it ain't so that you are suggesting that law enforcement should be vilified to protect criminals? Do you not see how these statements perpetuate the message that the DNC is the party defending criminals, rapists, drug dealers, and thugs over law abiding citizens? Not saying you personally intend on doing so, but do you at least have the self awareness to see why the majority of the country believe it so?

 

[rjs330]

Police officers deal with this worry all the time. Why can't ICE agents?
THESE are the two policing bodies (those individuals arresting people) that should be compared for the work they do.

No police don't. They don't have leftist radicals following them around, filming them for the purpose of doxing them so they and their families can be harassed and threatened. If this kind of stuff was happening to police officers you can bet there would be some serious repercussions and we would probably see face covered cops.