Pray for our Orthodox brethren

[boughtwithaprice]

News has come that the government of Ukraine wants to ban the Orthodox Church over ties to Moscow. This is not only the Russian Orthodox but also the Ukrainian Orthodox because they are not sufficiently anti-Moscow

Ukraine Gov’t Looks to Ban Branch of Orthodox Church over Ties to Russia

Ukraine Gov't Looks to Ban Orthodox Church Branch over Ties to Russia

The Ukrainian government has declared that a branch of the Orthodox Church has failed to sever its ties with Moscow and could be banned.

www.breitbart.com

Lord have mercy

 

[The Liturgist]

News has come that the government of Ukraine wants to ban the Orthodox Church over ties to Moscow. This is not only the Russian Orthodox but also the Ukrainian Orthodox because they are not sufficiently anti-Moscow

Ukraine Gov’t Looks to Ban Branch of Orthodox Church over Ties to Russia

Ukraine Gov't Looks to Ban Orthodox Church Branch over Ties to Russia

The Ukrainian government has declared that a branch of the Orthodox Church has failed to sever its ties with Moscow and could be banned.

www.breitbart.com

Lord have mercy

Yes they’ve been threatening to do that for months now. Also the Latvians are planning on doing the same and are at risk of getting away with it due to less media coverage. There is the European Court of Human Rights but no doubt the countries will argue that they derogated from religious freedom due to wartime conditions, which is of course nonsensical particularly since the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church severed formal relations with the MP and also since both churches have an obligation to bless their fighting forces while praying for peace, and if the roles were reversed Patriarch Kirill would be being celebrated as a hero for his controversial statements.

None of what I have posted should be interpreted as favoring anything but an immediate cessation of hostilities and immediate efforts to reconcile the Russian and Ukrainian people and normalize relations.

 

[CerebralCherub]

Yes they’ve been threatening to do that for months now. Also the Latvians are planning on doing the same and are at risk of getting away with it due to less media coverage. There is the European Court of Human Rights but no doubt the countries will argue that they derogated from religious freedom due to wartime conditions, which is of course nonsensical particularly since the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church severed formal relations with the MP and also since both churches have an obligation to bless their fighting forces while praying for peace, and if the roles were reversed Patriarch Kirill would be being celebrated as a hero for his controversial statements.

None of what I have posted should be interpreted as favoring anything but an immediate cessation of hostilities and immediate efforts to reconcile the Russian and Ukrainian people and normalize relations.

Governments tried to ban Jesus Christ during and after His time on Earth. God will prevail.

 

[BobRyan]

News has come that the government of Ukraine wants to ban the Orthodox Church over ties to Moscow. This is not only the Russian Orthodox but also the Ukrainian Orthodox because they are not sufficiently anti-Moscow

Ukraine Gov’t Looks to Ban Branch of Orthodox Church over Ties to Russia

Ukraine Gov't Looks to Ban Orthodox Church Branch over Ties to Russia

The Ukrainian government has declared that a branch of the Orthodox Church has failed to sever its ties with Moscow and could be banned.

www.breitbart.com

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Lord have mercy

from your link above..

"The action comes a year after the Ukrainian Parliament passed a law banning the Moscow-based Russian Orthodox Church due to its strong support of the Russian invasion of Ukraine."

note - the Moscow-based Russian Orthodox church blessed Putin's invasion of Ukraine at the start of the war.

"The law also authorized banning any organization tied to the Russian church. A government investigation into the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, with its centuries-old ties to Moscow, soon followed."

"The UOC denounced the full-blown Russian invasion from the start in 2022. It declared its independence from the Moscow church the same year and reiterated that stance in 2025.

"Even so, the government says the UOC has refused to take necessary steps, such as revising its governing documents, to complete that separation."

 

[Lukaris]

This is a really bad and tragic development that should be rejected. Metropolitan Onufriy is Ukrainian and his citizenship has been revoked seems highly illegal. Per the thread article:


Metropolitan Onufry, a bishop whose citizenship Ukraine has already revoked

Onufriy Berezovsky - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

His birthplace:

Born	Orest Volodymyrovych Berezovsky 5 November 1944 (age 80) Korytne, Vyzhnytsia Raion, Chernivtsi Oblast, Ukrainian SSR, Soviet Union

 

[boughtwithaprice]

from your link above..

"The action comes a year after the Ukrainian Parliament passed a law banning the Moscow-based Russian Orthodox Church due to its strong support of the Russian invasion of Ukraine."

note - the Moscow-based Russian Orthodox church blessed Putin's invasion of Ukraine at the start of the war.

"The law also authorized banning any organization tied to the Russian church. A government investigation into the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, with its centuries-old ties to Moscow, soon followed."

"The UOC denounced the full-blown Russian invasion from the start in 2022. It declared its independence from the Moscow church the same year and reiterated that stance in 2025.

"Even so, the government says the UOC has refused to take necessary steps, such as revising its governing documents, to complete that separation."

Things that are overlooked, maybe.

The Russian Orthodox Church are not the ones invading Ukraine, Vladimir Putin and the secular government are.
The Ukrainian Orthodox Church are still Christian as is the Russian
Is this not a government, aka Zelensky, mandated schism? What business does a secular government have in dictating Church affairs?

To me, that is the bigger picture. I don’t care what the opinions are, a government has no right to suppress a Church

 

[NewLifeInChristJesus]

Things that are overlooked, maybe.

The Russian Orthodox Church are not the ones invading Ukraine, Vladimir Putin and the secular government are.
The Ukrainian Orthodox Church are still Christian as is the Russian
Is this not a government, aka Zelensky, mandated schism? What business does a secular government have in dictating Church affairs?

To me, that is the bigger picture. I don’t care what the opinions are, a government has no right to suppress a Church

It happens regularly. We see it all over the globe and throughout history.

 

[Lukaris]

From what I have understood there has been foreign political meddling in the affairs of the Orthodox Church in Ukraine. This, I believe, is related to the secular political movements that challenged long term Russian political dominance. Zelensky didn’t cause any of this and, being Jewish & bearing the brunt of Russian brutality to Ukraine, doesn’t trust anything Russian.

 

[The Liturgist]

from your link above..

"The action comes a year after the Ukrainian Parliament passed a law banning the Moscow-based Russian Orthodox Church due to its strong support of the Russian invasion of Ukraine."

note - the Moscow-based Russian Orthodox church blessed Putin's invasion of Ukraine at the start of the war.

"The law also authorized banning any organization tied to the Russian church. A government investigation into the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, with its centuries-old ties to Moscow, soon followed."

"The UOC denounced the full-blown Russian invasion from the start in 2022. It declared its independence from the Moscow church the same year and reiterated that stance in 2025.

"Even so, the government says the UOC has refused to take necessary steps, such as revising its governing documents, to complete that separation."

Forgive me, I thought you supported absolute religious freedom?

 

[RileyG]

Lord have mercy!

 

[The Liturgist]

Lord have mercy!

Thank you Riley.