We Don’t Need Gun Control, We Need To Classify Gender Dysphoria As A Mental Illness Again

[FreeinChrist]

The transgender population is only a tiny percentage of the overall population yet within the tiny transgender population the number of mass shootings is indeed high. This was not an isolated incident:

These are all the mass shootings committed by trans people in the US

The latest case occurred on Wednesday at a Catholic Church and school in Minneapolis.

thepostmillennial.com

You do not have data for that so you are spreading an ...untruth, or a purely biased opinion that is unsupported. The article you posted speaks of 5 shooters in 7 years. It does NOT show that within the trans community that the number of shootings is high. You should back that up with a study or admit your statement is wrong.

Data from research does show that transgender individuals are four times as likely to suffer violent victimization than cisgender people. Plus families with a transgender member are more likely to suffer from property violence.

Everytown Research - EveryStat

Although the impact of gun violence is felt throughout the United States, its contours vary widely by state, county, race and ethnicity, gender, and intent. EveryStat for Gun Safety was designed for users to better understand how gun violence impacts the communities they care about.

everystat.org

Your attempt to make out that transpeople commit a high percentage of shootings is just bigotry and hate.

 

[Hans Blaster]

No. Other mental health disorders. If anything, it needs to be further studied.

The only thing the Trump Administration shut down faster and more thoroughly than the study of transgender people and gender identity was the Jan 6th insurrection prosecutions. The further study you want has been cancelled.

Furthermore, most trans people are VICTIMS of violence. Maybe I wasn’t clear.

And to the best of our understanding that increased violence is cause by the spreading of hatred about them, like the kind that is dripping all over the article in the OP.

And yes. I’ve been in a situation where a person was “misgendered” and they wanted my former coworker fired over it. So, so ridiculous.

I was thinking more close, but that's OK, it is fairly rare in society.

 

[iluvatar5150]

"Experts!" This guy is talking about "experts." How about the fact that all of humanity recognized a man as a man and a woman as a woman for thousands of years up until about five minutes ago when the "experts" suggested otherwise. Common sense is dying, and the left is killing it.

Many ancient cultures recognized something in between man and woman.

But hey, why pollute your “common sense“ with history.

 

[Larniavc]

Some people aren’t comfortable with transgendered people and it’s no surprise that have co morbid other disorders.

Some people aren’t comfortable with so many things. But being uncomfortable does not give them reason to make things up about them.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

No. It’s not. Some people aren’t comfortable with transgendered people and it’s no surprise that have co morbid other disorders.

So what? That’s got nothing to do with gun violence.

They may not like hearing they really aren’t the opposite gender regardless of their so called “identity” but it is what it is.

I’m not sure what any of this has to do with painting them as being uniquely responsible for or overly represented in mass shootings. This is just plain old scapegoating. The biggest factor in gun violence in America is easy access to guns. Not trans people giving you the willies.

 

[Valletta]

Some people aren’t comfortable with so many things. But being uncomfortable does not give them reason to make things up about them.

Nor should information be suppressed.

 

[Larniavc]

Nor should information be suppressed.

Two different things. I made no mention of information suppression.

That said, information which is factually incorrect should be labelled as such and disregarded.

 

[RileyG]

Some people aren’t comfortable with so many things. But being uncomfortable does not give them reason to make things up about them.

I’m not making anything up.

 

[RileyG]

So what? That’s got nothing to do with gun violence.


I’m not sure what any of this has to do with painting them as being uniquely responsible for or overly represented in mass shootings. This is just plain old scapegoating. The biggest factor in gun violence in America is easy access to guns. Not trans people giving you the willies.

That’s true. Most trans people aren’t violent but victims.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Many ancient cultures recognized something in between man and woman.

Nope.

 

[DaisyDay]

Completely accidental, it was over the phone.

Your co-worker tried to have someone fired for misgendering them over the phone? That does seem extreme for a one time mistake.

And, without sounding impolite, this person who identified as a trans woman, literally looked like a man in a dress, so it would be difficult for a person to know for sure how to address them.

That' wouldn't be particularly noticeable over the phone, would it? But if it was, the dress should be a clue.

That said, a lot of cis-gender women also apparently look like men in dresses, so there's that.

 

[RileyG]

Your co-worker tried to have someone fired for misgendering them over the phone? That does seem extreme for a one time mistake.

That' wouldn't be particularly noticeable over the phone, would it? But if it was, the dress should be a clue.

No. The coworker accidentally called the trans woman “sir” over the phone.

Well, a biological male having a male voice is normal.

 

[RileyG]

Your co-worker tried to have someone fired for misgendering them over the phone? That does seem extreme for a one time mistake.

That' wouldn't be particularly noticeable over the phone, would it? But if it was, the dress should be a clue.

That said, a lot of cis-gender women also apparently look like men in dresses, so there's that.

To be fair, sometimes it’s obvious, sometimes it’s not.

 

[DaisyDay]

No. The coworker accidentally called the trans woman “sir” over the phone.

Still awfully sensitive for a one time mistake.

Well, a biological male having a male voice is normal.

So is having an indeterminate voice.

 

[RileyG]

Still awfully sensitive for a one time mistake.

So is having an indeterminate voice.

Well? I’ve been called ma’am on the phone countless times. I don’t throw a hissy fit because i know I’m a guy. Maybe some trans people can try that (not all, some)

 

[linux.poet]

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