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Even though other people died, surviving enemy fire and displaying courage in the face of enemy fire and death, has always been celebrated here in the United States.

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If you know how to read ribbons, you'll see that Col. Ralph Puckett was awarded 5 Purple Hearts. Why give him awards when other people died?

Why is President Biden clapping when so many people died?

Being the victim of a targeted shooting in the US is hardly comparable to being a MoH recipient.
 
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No, there were real bullets fired by a registered Republican, but none of them struck Trump. His ear was cut when he was tackled.
Oh of course, that's why he put his hand to his ear and grimaced in pain before he was tackled.

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The assassination attempt is deadly serious and immoral and to be condemned!

But there is another issue here. I served in the Australian Military. In our Bootcamp we were drilled that when shots are fired, you follow the protocol or colleagues die. We would jog through the bush and randomly our Sarge would yell "BANG!" and we would instantly yell "Run! Down! Crawl! Observe! Aim! Fire!" A short dash to cover, dive down, crawl around, and check for incoming fire. So much for grunts in the bush.

I wrote about all this last year when it happened. It still makes me mad when I think about it. When shots are fired, those poor agents have a job to do. Get the President down, and then get him out of there! You assume the worst - that it could be coordinated - there could be multiple shooters. You put YOUR BODY on the President as a human shield.

Did Trump do the right thing - valuing his agents lives and complying with their instructions? NO! He paused for a photo-op. And MAGA cheer him on as a hero! :sick::sick: I just see narcissistic opportunity and disregard for his agents lives! Anyone defending his narcissistic photo op is disregarding the men and women that put their lives on the line to defend their President.

If he doesn't want to obey the recognised drill - why should they bother putting their lives on the line for him? He was being a buffoon! The more fun we poke at that disgusting image, the better!
The agents that were on top of him were no doubt in radio contact with the agents on the roof who took out the shooter. They could have easily told the agents who were with the president that the threat had been neutralized.
 
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The point is surviving enemy attack is celebrated, even though others died.
Not to mention the fact that Trump had no way of knowing that someone had died at that point.
 
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Not to mention the fact that Trump had no way of knowing that someone had died at that point.
It's one of the most iconic moments in history, with Trump displaying courage and tenacity. So of course the left wants to discourage anyone from bringing it up.

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MOD HAT ON

DUE TO MULTIPLE RULE VIOLATIONS

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It is not OK to take goading posts, nor quotes, from goading public figures, to goad other public figures, and post them here, to goad supporters of those goaded public figures.

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