Mass Shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church/School in Minneapolis

[caffeinated.hermit]

Yeah, none of those articles provide any support for the claim that the transgender community itself is violent. Did you read them?

I did. Some noted significant and concerning rates of domestic violence within the transgender community. While not all transgender people have partners who are also transgender, many do. I've noticed a large number of couples who are mtf / ftm as well as ftm / ftm. It does seem rarer to meet a couple who is mtf / mtf, though mtf / f couples are quite common, with the transgender partner often considering themselves to be in a lesbian relationship.

Yes, there are higher rates of violence, depression, anxiety, and other mental health concerns within the transgender community. I would also suspect that many, many of these people, especially young people, were also sexually abused as children. This really needs to be looked into. This is the second time a transgender person has shot up a Christian school and killed children in the last few years. That is worrying.

And, frankly, anti-Christian rhetoric on transgender online spaces is very real. Not just ideological rhetoric, but violent rhetoric. Calls to "kill Christofascists" are not uncommon. And while not all or even most transgender people are like this, there is a very real, very radicalized segment of this community that poses a real, not imagined, threat to those who do not agree with them.

 

[JosephZ]

300 rounds of rifle ammo (not counting the shotgun and revolver) resulting in 2 people being killed.
How do you reason that high capacity magazines led to "so many casualties"?

Casualties are the number of people injured and killed.

 

[Zaha Torte]

Police respond to shooting at south Minneapolis church; multiple victims reported, shooter dead

Richfield police confirmed reports of 20 victims, adding that a man dressed in all black and armed with a rifle was reported at the scene.

Suspect ‘contained’ after shooting reported at Minneapolis Catholic school: authorities​

Authorities say a suspect has been “contained” after a shooting occurred at a Minneapolis Catholic school on Wednesday morning.

Gov. Tim Walz said on social media that he had been briefed on a shooting at Annunciation Catholic School, located on the city’s south side. Police told local news outlet KARE that an active shooter allegedly opened fire at Annunciation Church.

It’s unclear if students, who had their first day of classes on Monday, were in the church at the time. The pre-kindergarten through eighth-grade school had an all-school Mass scheduled at 8:15 a.m. Wednesday morning, according to its website.

We need to outlaw transgenderism.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

I did. Some noted significant and concerning rates of domestic violence within the transgender community. While not all transgender people have partners who are also transgender, many do. I've noticed a large number of couples who are mtf / ftm as well as ftm / ftm. It does seem rarer to meet a couple who is mtf / mtf, though mtf / f couples are quite common, with the transgender partner often considering themselves to be in a lesbian relationship.

Without knowing the gender identity of the perpetrators of the observed intimate partner violence, no conclusions can be drawn about whether the transgender community has a problem with committing violence. Consider that "intimate partner violence" can potentially include prostitutes and johns, as well as people meeting up on dating apps - these incidences would not necessarily be limited to people in actual relationships.

 

[durangodawood]

You could remove transgender people from the face of the earth, and the school (and other) shooting problem will carry on just like normal.

 

[Aldebaran]

Casualties are the number of people injured and killed.

Then suppose this guy had shown up with a pistol instead of an AR rifle, and had 5 magazines holding 10 rounds each. That, in addition to the shotgun and revolver could just as easily have caused as many casualties--especially since he didn't even fire all the rounds he brought with him. If this had been the case, would you be wanting even more restrictions, or would you say enough restrictions have been made?

 

[Aldebaran]

You could remove transgender people from the face of the earth, and the school (and other) shooting problem will carry on just like normal.

How so? If this particular transsexual person had been removed from the face of the earth, he couldn't have done the shooting in Minneapolis.

 

[durangodawood]

How so? If this particular transsexual person had been removed from the face of the earth, he couldn't have done the shooting in Minneapolis.

I said "carry on like normal". Not that the world would be exactly the same in every single detail.

 

[Aldebaran]

Without knowing the gender identity of the perpetrators of the observed intimate partner violence, no conclusions can be drawn about whether the transgender community has a problem with committing violence. Consider that "intimate partner violence" can potentially include prostitutes and johns, as well as people meeting up on dating apps - these incidences would not necessarily be limited to people in actual relationships.

According to Google's AI, the percentage of transsexual people in the United States is between .5% and 1%, and we've had multiple news reports of mass shootings done by them. And that's just the mass shootings we're hearing about.
For a community that small, they sure make up a big percentage of mass shooters.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

According to Google's AI, the percentage of transsexual people in the United States is between .5% and 1%, and we've had multiple news reports of mass shootings done by them. And that's just the mass shootings we're hearing about.
For a community that small, they sure make up a big percentage of mass shooters.

How many mass shootings have there been in the past year?

 

[Aldebaran]

I said "carry on like normal". Not that the world be exactly the same in every single detail.

Then what is "carry on like normal"? You said, "the school (and other) shooting problem will carry on just like normal." They make up such a tiny % of the population, and yet we keep hearing about them doing mass shootings. That would indicate that it's a mental health problem, while so many people like to think it's an ammo capacity problem, or a problem stemming from a firearm of a specific model.

 

[Aldebaran]

How many mass shootings have there been in the past year?

Not seeing a number, but I found this website: Search Incidents | Gun Violence Archive

 

[durangodawood]

Then what is "carry on like normal"? You said, "the school (and other) shooting problem will carry on just like normal." They make up such a tiny % of the population, and yet we keep hearing about them doing mass shootings. That would indicate that it's a mental health problem, while so many people like to think it's an ammo capacity problem, or a problem stemming from a firearm of a specific model.

There so many not trans people doing murder that the gun violence problem will look and feel indistinguishable.

 

[JosephZ]

According to Google's AI, the percentage of transsexual people in the United States is between .5% and 1%, and we've had multiple news reports of mass shootings done by them. And that's just the mass shootings we're hearing about.
For a community that small, they sure make up a big percentage of mass shooters.

See this post.

Mass Shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church/School in Minneapolis

Felons aren't allowed to buy/own guns. Underage people aren't allowed to buy them. Background checks are needed, and an efficient method of processing them is in place. Define "gun culture". From what I've found: Despite common themes, there is no single American gun culture; rather, there...

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[RocksInMyHead]

Not seeing a number, but I found this website: Search Incidents | Gun Violence Archive

Ok, I searched for incidents labelled as "mass shootings" from 8/28/24 to 8/28/25 and got 420. Now, how many of them were committed by transgender people? I'm not doing your research for you on this one - you made the claim here.

 

[Aldebaran]

There so many not trans people doing murder that the gun violence problem will look and feel indistinguishable.

Yeah, that's not a good reason to ignore their mental illness when asking, "How could such a thing happen?"

 

[durangodawood]

Yeah, that's not a good reason to ignore their mental illness when asking, "How could such a thing happen?"

Lots of mass shooters seem to have some mental illness problem. Of course we should consider that.

Others are ideologically poisoned. Some are just at a terrible point in theirs lives that would have passed had there not been guns at hand.

 

[JosephZ]

Then suppose this guy had shown up with a pistol instead of an AR rifle, and had 5 magazines holding 10 rounds each. That, in addition to the shotgun and revolver could just as easily have caused as many casualties--especially since he didn't even fire all the rounds he brought with him. If this had been the case, would you be wanting even more restrictions, or would you say enough restrictions have been made?

It's highly unlikely the shooter wouldn't have been able to injure and kill as many yesterday with a handgun with five 10 round magazines, even with the addition of a shotgun and the revolver. The shooter was only able to fire through the windows, and it was a large sanctuary. But to answer your question, if all of the restrictions I support were already in place, no, I would not want any additional restrictions.

 

[Aldebaran]

Lots of mass shooters seem to have some mental illness problem. Of course we should consider that.

Others are ideologically poisoned. Some are just at a terrible point in theirs lives that would have passed had there not been guns at hand.

Ok, so then it's not an AR15 problem or a magazine capacity problem, correct?

 

[Aldebaran]

It's highly unlikely the shooter wouldn't have been able to injure and kill as many yesterday with a handgun with five 10 round magazines, even with the addition of a shotgun and the revolver. The shooter was only able to fire through the windows, and it was a large sanctuary. But to answer your question, if all of the restrictions I support were already in place, no, I would not want any additional restrictions.

Then that would put you in the minority. Whenever politicians and activists call for magazines restriction, bans, etc., and then they get what they want, they always push for more saying that getting what they originally asked for was just the "first step". We've heard that so many times that people have learned to resist any more "first steps", because we know what it ends up leading to.