Two in a bed one taken... where? Where there is a dead body, the vultures will gather. This means?

[David Lamb]

I believe and teach everything that is stated above except for recoginizing the Holy Catholic church as the true church. The apostolic church that the Apostles started, along with its teachings of truth as recorded in the NT, is the one true church.

Do you accept the teachings of the Holy Catholic church or is that an exception for you, too?

Joe

"Catholic" in the Nicene Creed has a small c. It just means world-wide, universal. It doesn't refer only the the Roman Catholic denomination.

 

[Apple Sky]

Do you accept the teachings of the Holy Catholic church

Does Jesus ?

 

[David Lamb]

Does Jesus ?

The catholic (small c) church just means the world-wide, universal church, the church that Jesus said He would build and the gates of hell would not prevail against it. That is the church mentioned in the creeds. The creeds don't say, "I believe in the Roman Catholic Church."

 

[Apple Sky]

The catholic (small c) church just means the world-wide, universal church, the church that Jesus said He would build and the gates of hell would not prevail against it. That is the church mentioned in the creeds. The creeds don't say, "I believe in the Roman Catholic Church."

Believe it or not, Jesus only used the word “church” twice. On the first occasion, Jesus speaks prophetically to his disciple Peter in Matthew 16:18.

 

[David Lamb]

Believe it or not, Jesus only used the word “church” twice. On the first occasion, Jesus speaks prophetically to his disciple Peter in Matthew 16:18.

Yes, I agree. Not sure how it answers my post though.

 

[Apple Sky]

Dear Apple Sky,
Jesus is the Word of God. It is up to mankind and even the Catholic church to agree with Him - not the other way around.
Joe

That's what I'm saying, if Jesus believes it then so do I.

 

[timothyu]

People forget (or is it purposely ignore) that Jesus’ only human enemy here was religion. The same would hold true today. Rules and ritual rather than a way of life.

 

[GoldenKingGaze]

Dear GoldenKingGaze,
You are reading into it words it does not say. I would discuss it more but it is not allowed on this forum.
Joe

The authors of the Creed are Trinitarian. The term came to be published or hand written in a letter in the second century, then "Triad".

 

[FreeinChrist]

ADVISOR HAT

This thread had a clean up of non-Nicene posts and responses.

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[Indentured Servant]

ADVISOR HAT

This thread had a clean up of non-Nicene posts and responses.

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What is "Nicene?"

Does this parallel Scripture?

 

[Aaron112]

Man's creed.
Somewhat but not 100%.

 

[timothyu]

Even though we are to play by God’s , man still likes to lay out the rules. Render unto caesar

 

[timothyu]

Does this parallel Scripture?

Even though we are to play by God’s , man still likes to lay out the rules over scripture. Render unto caesar

 

[Indentured Servant]

Man's creed.
Somewhat but not 100%.

That's similar, though on a larger scale, to a church's doctrinal checkpoints for members, and their "Statement of Faith."

I see all that as compliance to a written interpretation in order to gain acceptance in a flock, at the loss of one's personal insights and wisdom.

Most teachings within churches have to be filtered through lenses of their denominations, doctrines, and dogmas.

I suppose that's why forums such as this are riddled with fruitless debates about doctrinal differences, and lacks the very practices and standards that we all say we believe, (when we're not arguing with others).

 

[timothyu]

and lacks the very practices and standards that we all say we believe

His Will, not ours.