Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

[Phil G]

It couldn't be more clearer in the video if he tried

It’s very very obvious in the video that the ship is NOT beyond the horizon. You might as well claim you can zoom an object in with a camera while it’s behind a wall, and then show an object in front of the wall to prove it!!!

And…..Explain your own observation of the sun & moon being bigger at sunrise and moonrise, because that observation clearly falsifies flat earth.

You keep ignoring this glaring error & own goal of yours and I’ll keep posting it.

 

[Phil G]

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Nothing to do with the shape of the earth in that. It’s about geocentricism, not the earth's shape. You seem to have trouble reading. You see things which are not even there.

And….Explain your own observation of the sun & moon being bigger at sunrise and moonrise, because that observation clearly falsifies flat earth.

 

[Strong in Him]

You keep ignoring this glaring error & own goal of yours and I’ll keep posting it.

I wouldn't hold your breath though.
I'm quite sure that she is ignoring it because a) she can't explain it and b) she realises that she has shot herself in the foot.

 

[Phil G]

I wouldn't hold your breath though.
I'm quite sure that she is ignoring it because a) she can't explain it and b) she realises that she has shot herself in the foot.

Of course, you’re right on both counts. But I’ll keep reminding her of the fact she’s provided us with such an obvious refutation of flat earth all by herself!

And the reason she can’t answer it is because all her sources steer well clear of such evidence. They can’t answer it either.

And she can’t understand any of it anyway.

A trap of her own making, no less!!

 

[Apple Sky]

And…..Explain your own observation of the sun & moon being bigger at sunrise and moonrise, because that observation clearly falsifies flat earth.

You keep ignoring this glaring error & own goal of yours and I’ll keep posting it.

I've stated the truth, so be it.

 

[Phil G]

I've stated the truth, so be it.

You only state what you believe. That doesn’t make it truth.

You believe the lies of flat earthers. You don’t critically think. And the one thing which is obvious over the last year and a half of these threads, you have absolutely no understanding of what you’re talking about.

If you want to prove otherwise, then explain your own observation of the sun & moon being bigger at sunrise and moonrise, because that observation clearly falsifies flat earth.

 

[Apple Sky]

You only state what you believe. That doesn’t make it truth.

I've stated what I've seen, are you calling me a liar ?

 

[Phil G]

I've stated what I've seen, are you calling me a liar ?

Not at all. I’m saying what you have seen falsifies flat earth.

I don’t understand why you are not getting this. I’ve spent a week explaining it to you and still you don’t get it.

You have seen the sun and moon looking bigger at sunrise and moonrise. That is not in question. I’m not disputing that in the least. Got it?

But what you have seen should not happen if the earth is flat.

I’m asking you to explain your honest observation in the context of how it could happen if the earth is flat. If you can’t, then it falsifies the concept of flat earth.

And there is absolutely no need to accuse me of calling you a liar. How you got that from what I have been asking you for a week now is beyond me!!!!

 

[Apple Sky]

I’m asking you to explain your honest observation in the context of how it could happen if the earth is flat. If you can’t, then it falsifies the concept of flat earth.

So be it, you believe what you want to believe & I'll do the same.

All this does not lead me to reconsider my views on the earth being a globe.

 

[Phil G]

So be it, you believe what you want to believe & I'll do the same.

All this does not lead me to reconsider my views on the earth being a globe.

But this only confirms that you only believe what you want. You’re not thinking critically. Your own observation should cause you to reconsider if you can’t reason it out.

I don’t believe the earth is a globe because I want to. I believe it because all the evidence points to it. And a number of Christian astronauts confirm it as eyewitnesses.

Critical thinking is essential to discovering the truth of a matter. And the biblical principle of having two or three witnesses is a God given principle for ascertaining the truth too.

But you don’t think critically at all. You pass off your own observation as if it’s nothing when it is a crucial piece of evidence.

And you accuse the Christian astronauts of lying and telling fairy stories.

Such behaviour is a sign of a closed mind, an indoctrinated mind.

So go ahead, believe what you want. But don’t accuse the rest of us of doing the same as you. Leave us to critically examine the evidence, and listen to eyewitnesses, instead of listening to somebody who just believes what they want to believe.

 

[Apple Sky]

So go ahead, believe what you want. But don’t accuse the rest of us of doing the same as you. Leave us to critically examine the evidence, and listen to eyewitnesses, instead of listening to somebody who just believes what they want to believe.

I watch, I listen & I observe by those that understand the concept of a level earth, that's why I listen to Dean & used to listen to Rob Skiba ( Greatly missed), I listen to God & his words & I believe in his creation, I believe in God's creation so much that it just drives me crazy when others don't believe in the way in which he created it.

I believe God created a level earth level with the beauty of two celestial lights & all the stars that circuit our skies on a daily basis.

Man has turned God's creation into this monstrous rotating ball that hurtles through space at speeds I just can't comprehend, they have placed the stars at light years away & the sun & the moon at ridiculous distances away, can't you see this ?

I also believe God is the way, the truth & the light, who died in order that we could be saved & I will follow him for the rest of my life.

 

[Phil G]

I watch, I listen & I observe by those that understand the concept of a level earth, that's why I listen to Dean & used to listen to Rob Skiba ( Greatly missed), I listen to God & his words & I believe in his creation, I believe in God's creation so much that it just drives me crazy when others don't believe in the way in which he created it.

I believe God created a level earth level with the beauty of two celestial lights & all the stars that circuit our skies on a daily basis.

Man has turned God's creation into this monstrous rotating ball that hurtles through space at speeds I just can't comprehend, they have placed the stars at light years away & the sun & the moon at ridiculous distances away, can't you see this ?

These are just statements of belief. There is no critical thinking. There is no taking the God given principle of having two or three witnesses to find the truth of the matter.

You ignore your own observation in favour of your belief in a flat earth. You can’t explain it so you just ignore it. That’s not being true to your belief in the Lord. He gave you the principle of believing two or three witnesses to find the truth of a matter. You ignore that also in favour of your belief.

Neither Odle nor Skiba are eyewitnesses to the shape of the earth. Christian astronauts are. But you call them liars and fairy story tellers.

You don’t understand the concept of a flat earth at all. If you did you would know that your own observation contradicts it.

Throughout these threads you have consistently avoided answering clear evidence against flat earth. Instead you have accused others. Your latest was to implicate me in calling you a liar when I did no such thing. That’s the level you sink to in your beliefs.

You said “I also believe God is the way, the truth & the light, who died in order that we could be saved & I will follow him for the rest of my life.”

Good. That’s what’s important. But calling people liars and fairy story tellers because they don’t believe as you do is beyond the pale, beyond what God has called you or any of us to do.

It is not good, nor is it edifying for the church.

 

[Phil G]

So, for all who are interested in facts, evidence, critical thinking and marvelling at this vast universe the Lord God has created, a final debate will soon be taking place by TFE. Participants are to be announced. Well done to Pastor Will Duffy and all involved for the incredible work they’ve done in Antarctica.

 

[prodromos]

It couldn't be more clearer in the video if he tried

Oh it was clear alright.

 

[tharkun73]

I believe God created a level earth level with the beauty of two celestial lights & all the stars that circuit our skies on a daily basis.

Then you diagree with what the OT patriarchs believed about the motion of the sun and moon - they believed they travelled under the earth at sunset/moonset and came back up the other side at sunrise/moonrise. How do you explain this contradiction in your belief in taking the Bible literally?

 

[Apple Sky]

Then you diagree with what the OT patriarchs believed about the motion of the sun and moon - they believed they travelled under the earth at sunset/moonset and came back up the other side at sunrise/moonrise. How do you explain this contradiction in your belief in taking the Bible literally?

Where in the Bible does it state this ?

King James Bible
His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

 

[Apple Sky]

So, for all who are interested in facts, evidence, critical thinking and marvelling at this vast universe the Lord God has created, a final debate will soon be taking place by TFE. Participants are to be announced. Well done to Pastor Will Duffy and all involved for the incredible work they’ve done in Antarctica.

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[Phil G]

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More accusations without any critical thinking.

Explain your own observation of the sun & moon being bigger at sunrise and moonrise, because that observation clearly falsifies flat earth.

 

[tharkun73]

Where in the Bible does it state this ?

King James Bible
His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

Your hyper-literalism is showing (again). Clearly things are hidden from the heat of the sun - or do you not believe in night, clouds, or winter?

We know from studies of ancient literature that the ANE worldview was one that does not align with what you claim to believe. The Bible was written from within and to the ANE culture. There are mulitple easily obtainable sources that show that they believed the sun travelled under the earth - contrary to what you believe. Scripture speaks of the sun rising and setting, not getting bigger and smaller which is what flat earth believes.

 

[Apple Sky]

More accusations without any critical thinking. Where is the Lord in your posts?

Take a look & see, Russianvids is man for God.

Take a look and see what Jaraisim or what ever you call him is all about, it's ugly........

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