Flat or round earth -The final experiment.

[Strong in Him]

It's still evidence,

Not in this case it isn't.
How can it be scientific evidence when it was not written for that purpose?

It contains evidence of God.
It gives evidence of his nature, his will, his plan for humankind.
It gives evidence that he speaks to us, that he answers prayer, that he can do miracles, suspend the laws of nature that he created and that he always planned to send Jesus.
It gives evidence of the beginnings of Christianity.
It is not the only source of this evidence - WE are evidence that God lives, lives in us, loves, restores, cares and so on.

Does it give evidence of HOW God created all living things, what shape he made the planet, that he created gravity etc etc?
No.
You said you would believe scientific facts if they were true. You have no evidence that they are not true and that certain scientists - you appear to accept a few - are lying or performed false experiments. The Bible does not say that science is not true. It does not say that God forbade people from discovering, experimenting and finding out about the world that he made.
Why can't you understand that this is not the purpose of the Bible? Men - and maybe women - wrote it to record GOD's words and actions. They also wrote to record their own actions and how God was constantly faithful when they were unfaithful. They wrote it so that people in future generations would know about their history, their relationship with God and the Gospel.

God was perfectly capable of saying to Moses, "write this down; this is HOW I created the universe. This is HOW I produced trees, flowers, animals, stars etc from nothing; how I made atoms, cells, bones, fins, feathers etc. You need to know so that a) you can appreciate all my hard work and b) because you may want to do it yourself one day." If he had done that, Genesis 1 would be a few thousand pages long, no one except scientists would read it and our Bibles would be the size of a house.

Using the Bible for scientific evidence would be like using a cookery book to learn Spanish because it contained the word Paella.

 

[Larniavc]

It did not rain on the earth till after the flood or

Then how did evapotranspiration happen?

 

[Larniavc]

Honestly all the time growing up, I never thought that so many people believed that the earth orbits the sun, I've always thought of the sun moving across the sky along with the moon and the stars & still do.

Welsh education seems to have let you down.

 

[d taylor]

Then how did evapotranspiration happen?

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The water from the mist of the ground caused plant life to spring forth
Genesis 1
Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. So the evening and the morning were the third day.
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In Genesis 1 it is seen God stating Let the earth bring forth grass, etc... and it is seen in Genesis 2 how the land (earth) brought forth grass, etc.. because of the mist God brought forth to water the whole face of the ground
Genesis 2
This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.

 

[Strong in Him]

Earth in The Bible never means a water covered sphere,

Genesis 1 doesn't tell us what shape God made the earth. In Gen 1:1 the earth was formless and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
In Gen 1:9 we read that God gathered up the water below the vault and said "let dry land appear."
So the earth went from being a formless, dark place covered in water, to a place that had seas, sky and land.

so breadth can not be addressing a measurement taken on a globe.

Why can't it? The Bible doesn't say what shape God made the earth.

So when the verse states they will come upon the breadth of the earth, it is only addressing land.

But the earth consists of land and sea. Right there, in the beginning, God gathered up waters to form the sea, and commanded that dry land appear.
The Bible also talks about people going to the ends of the earth and God bringing the dead from the depths of the sea. The planet is not all dry land with the sea in another place.

The earth (land) now has been divided up, it is not one piece of circular land now, as it was brought fourth in Genesis 1

Oh, so it WAS brought forth as circular land when God created it?

To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan.
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Then God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so.

Those verses are not related.

Let the dry land appear, the verse does not say let the dry land's appear.

Genesis 2:10 describes a river that flowed into other lands.
It seems these existed before the Tower of Babel.

 

[Strong in Him]

How can it ?

How can it not?
In the beginning the earth was formless. God separated the waters and commanded dry land to appear. The earth was not all land and then God, somehow, made water; it was the other way around. In Genesis 2 there was river which divided and flowed into other lands.
From the beginning, sea and land existed on the same planet.

 

[Strong in Him]

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And God called the dry land Earth

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, Now the earth was formless .... Genesis 1:1-2.

 

[Apple Sky]

Welsh education seems to have let you down.

I wasn't educated in Wales.

Oh, so it WAS brought forth as circular land when God created it?

Yes, surrounded by the seas where God bound them up with very high iced walls, Oh yeah & a protective covering, you see God thought of everything before he created Adam.

 

[Larniavc]

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The water from the mist of the ground caused plant life to spring forth
Genesis 1
Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth”; and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. So the evening and the morning were the third day.
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In Genesis 1 it is seen God stating Let the earth bring forth grass, etc... and it is seen in Genesis 2 how the land (earth) brought forth grass, etc.. because of the mist God brought forth to water the whole face of the ground
Genesis 2
This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.

What does that have to do with evapotranspiration in high humidity areas?

 

[Larniavc]

I wasn't educated in Wales.

What’s wrong with Wales?

 

[d taylor]

What does that have to do with evapotranspiration in high humidity areas?

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Probably nothing, but i did not post those verse to show how evapotranspiration work in God's creation. But i posted the verse showing how God creation functioned.

 

[Larniavc]

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Probably nothing, but i did not post those verse to show how evapotranspiration work in God's creation. But i posted the verse showing how God creation functioned.

Yeah but it doesn’t work. With no rain and only ‘mist’ none of the plants would survive. So it’ not how God’s creation functioned.

 

[Strong in Him]

God thought of everything before he created Adam.

The only part of your post that is correct.

 

[Apple Sky]

What’s wrong with Wales?

Nothing.

 

[Apple Sky]

The only part of your post that is correct.

So in other words God didn't bind up the seas and set the boundaries & he didn't put a firmament over the earth to protect it.

Proverbs 8:29​

Genesis 1:17​

 

[Larniavc]

Nothing.

If that’s really the case which circumference is greater: the Tropic of Cancer or the Tropic of Capricorn?

 

[Larniavc]

So in other words God didn't bind up the seas and set the boundaries & he didn't put a firmament over the earth to protect it.

Proverbs 8:29​

Genesis 1:17​

Not according to what we see today. But it is not impossible that God made it flat and then changed it after the fact.

 

[Apple Sky]

If that’s really the case which circumference is greater: the Tropic of Cancer or the Tropic of Capricorn?

I you really want to know Just google it.

 

[Strong in Him]

So in other words God didn't bind up the seas and set the boundaries & he didn't put a firmament over the earth to protect it.

Proverbs 8:29​

Genesis 1:17​

Not literally, no.
Water cannot be bound, any more that it can be piled up.
God "put boundaries", or set limits, on the sea. It was never meant to cover the entire earth, for example; there was always going to be dry land.
There are not thick walls of ice surrounding the earth - and nowhere is this called Antarctica.
Genesis 1:6, God made a vault - some translations say "firmament". Gen 1: He called the vault "sky". The idea that this vault, or firmament is solid appears to have come from a misunderstanding of another verse where the sky is described as, "AS molten glass". The word "as" is a simile - it's comparing the sky to molten glass; it doesn't say that it IS molten glass.
This has led to the, nonsensical, thinking that a rocket, going at speed, would not be able to break through it. And on the basis of that misunderstanding, the moon landings, and the testimonies of Christian who were there, has been dismisses as "lies" and "fake".

 

[Apple Sky]

But it is not impossible that God made it flat and then changed it after the fact.

Hmm, so God changed it from a level unmovable earth to a rotating ball ? lol'z